There is no logical reason that RL cannot increase attendances at all clubs , however no 2 clubs will have exactly the same way of doing it, its just a case of finding what you particular club needs to do, and doing it, however we are not talking ' quick fix ' , and that is the problem, the RFL and the clubs are inherently lazy , it comes from success and money, ie the people running our clubs and the sport are by definition ' financially successful ' and therefor have lost the understanding of what got them that success in the 1 st place

Well, no. Neither is there any logical reason why attendances won't decrease. Or why the won't go up at some clubs, and down at other clubs.


Well, there you go. Problem solved, you want to patent that.


Ah. Well, that must be the problem.


That seems so obvious when you point it out. Someone who is good at business completely loses the understanding of how to do it once they start running a RL club. Again, obvious, really. So, what we need is a bunch of business failures, to get the mirror effect, am I right?

You know, you really don't half spout some bollox.

A simple question? , are Chelsea a successful football club?

Just because you dont understand the point being made doesnt make the point wrong, it just means you dont understand it

To you 2 simple questions

Are Chelsea a successful football club?

Are Chelsea a successful business?

Nothing to do with whether I understand it or not. Simply a matter of you talking out of your ärse again.

I bet the likes of e.g. McManus and Davy and Moran and Caddick would have something to say about your absurd assertion that being financially successful means you must have forgotten how you became financially successful. And would be interested in just why you feel you are qualified to talk about them in that way.

Adey can't you see the fishing line, just slip away quietly and ignore him!

After about 13 years of using boards I recently decided to put a few of the newer morons on 'ignore', including that one - the advice is spot on Blotto, and if I could just add, that if anyone really really [ireally[/i feels they have no choice but to confront moronic outbursts head on (believe me I can fully understand why you might), could you do it without quoting them? Then my blood pressure doesn't have to rise!!

So, are Chelsea a successful football club? , simple question

So why if they are all so clever and successful are all their stadiums not sold out and all their clubs turning a profit?

Sound advice, and followed.

Whenever you pin this one down with something irrefutable, it just comes back with a different question and never addresses the point it has just so spectacularly failed on. Pointless trying to debate with the likes of it, so best on the ignore list. Leave it to the 'Vark to see it off from time to time, since he enjoys assisting it when it shows itself up.

And I had you down as a reasonably intelligent person willing to discus things reasonably, seems I was wrong, when the last lot of owners took control of Bradford, I'm sure they were much lauded as succssesful businessmen who would make the Bulls a better club both on and off the field, so what went wrong? , how do perfectly competant businessmen become complete muppets when they get involved in pro sport?