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Just watched the interview with MK. I can't see how a rebranding in or around Salford would work regarding increasing the fan base. The move to odsal rumour may have some legs.

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Quote: woolly07 "Unfortunately for us simple fans it may just come down to business is business and the customers come last in their plans apart from them gambling on what S. H. Jimmy says - we will all come streaming back.
To me that is a massive gamble but I expect many businessmen have had that philosophy and it has probably worked. It relies on supporters having shorter memories and a forgiving nature.
My warning to them is that my experience of working and living away from Yorkshire for many years is that it is easy for people to get out of the habit of going to games as you find other things.
It will be hard to get them back when they are in the new habit of doing other things.
They need to keep us all turning up till the hoped new future starts but that needs them to keep us interested and they are failing at that right now.'"


I definitely think it's true that supporters tend to have a, "forgiving nature", but it isn't everlasting of course and, if provoked badly enough and for long enough, every fan fan is likely to decide that enough is more than enough. It is unfortunate for our current owners, because, in truth, they had no part in the bulk of it, as provocation started quite awhile back and the clock has been ticking for three, four or five years or more.

When they first took over, someone posted a sort of plea to them, (sorry, I forget who) telling them exactly what they had to overcome to win our trust. It was probably the best post I've ever read on here, but sadly, the new owners either didn't see it or decided to completely ignore it. They certainly have done very little to try and win hearts and minds, and for many just a little would possibly be sufficient.

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The other week I found and sent an email to Mr Chalmers and Mr Lowe. I didn't mince my words and asked the questions that I thought pertinent and some which came up through this forum. Astonishing Andrew Chalmers got back to me and offered me a meeting before the Fev game today which I went to. I asked FA to come along too, which he did and Chalmers answered our questions honestly and fully for an hour. When I get home after this game, and sober up, we'll type up the minutes run it by Mr Chalmers (who said we could put it up here as long as it's accurate) and let you all know what was said. However, although there is no magic bullet, what he told us in answer to our concerns was very promising.

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Quote: Fr13daY "The other week I found and sent an email to Mr Chalmers and Mr Lowe. I didn't mince my words and asked the questions that I thought pertinent and some which came up through this forum. Astonishing Andrew Chalmers got back to me and offered me a meeting before the Fev game today which I went to. I asked FA to come along too, which he did and Chalmers answered our questions honestly and fully for an hour. When I get home after this game, and sober up, we'll type up the minutes run it by Mr Chalmers (who said we could put it up here as long as it's accurate) and let you all know what was said. However, although there is no magic bullet, what he told us in answer to our concerns was very promising.'"

I look forward to reading them when you can put them up.

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Also positive that they was happy to have a meeting with you.

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Quote: RickyF1 "I look forward to reading them when you can put them up.'"

I'll do it as soon as I can. I think it's common courtesy to let Mr Chalmers read what we have written before posting it. I'll post up the email I wrote to him so you can see the questions asked, and answered, after the game when I get home.

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Quote: Fr13daY "I'll do it as soon as I can. I think it's common courtesy to let Mr Chalmers read what we have written before posting it. I'll post up the email I wrote to him so you can see the questions asked, and answered, after the game when I get home.'"


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Quote: Fr13daY "I'll do it as soon as I can. I think it's common courtesy to let Mr Chalmers read what we have written before posting it. I'll post up the email I wrote to him so you can see the questions asked, and answered, after the game when I get home.'"

Thank you very much for taking your time to do this. I agree with Chalmers reading it first and then there can be no one who says it's not accurate.

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I think we'll all be interested in an accurate summary of how Cha-Lo sees things and what they intend to do about it.
I just hope its not another ".....if the fans do more.....if the fans support us......if the fans......".
I appreciate you saying there is no magic bullet; the "promising" answers need to have some solid foundations if he wants to win fans back.
I'm assuming there is nothing in his answers that would have persuaded more fans to turn up for the Fev game.
Another thank you to Fr13day & FA

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Look forward to hearing this, though why he hasn't done this with a larger audience is odd.

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Interesting, I will look forward to reading that.

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Came away from the meeting in a far more positive outlook than went in. Great job by Agent Fr13daY in making the meeting happen.
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A few year ago after we had been bummed by Crusaders, when Matt Orford was still here, I emailed Peter Hood and asked him a few questions. He had the courtesy of emailing me back and asked me if I wanted to go in and have a chat about what was going on, I went in twice to see him. At the time we were looking for a new coach, he told me Brian Mac had applied for the job but Hood thought it was too soon for him to coach the Bulls, obviously before he went to Leeds. Mick Potter ended up getting the job, if only we hadn't of been docked 6 points that season we would of been top 8 and the last few years may of been so different

Hood also told me, regarding the ground situation, this was before he sold the lease, that he expected Odsal to be done up and Ken Morrison to provide the final 10 million to finish it off.

Looking back at all that now it probably sounds like we were having a good drink and dreaming of what might be

I hope the things said in the meeting today were a bit more believable guys, good that he's made the time to see you both and have a chat

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Please can we have a new thread for your question and answer session. Thanks.

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Quote: Bulliac "When they first took over, someone posted a sort of plea to them, (sorry, I forget who) telling them exactly what they had to overcome to win our trust. It was probably the best post I've ever read on here, but sadly, the new owners either didn't see it or decided to completely ignore it. They certainly have done very little to try and win hearts and minds, and for many just a little would possibly be sufficient.'"


I think the plea you're thinking of was in WobblyHeadedBull's blog on Tumblr.

(Links would have been posted here)

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