No six wins in 20 does.

It's not good for us. We could really do without Dewsbury starting winning under a new coach...

...mind you, we should be ok for a while, if Karl is in charge.

With Toovs visa imminent, Beatie stepping back to the Academy, Morro would make a good Assistant Coach, has the necessary experience and as Bulls Fans know a great work ethic!

I keep hearing this kind of whisper, but as much as I suspect it's true that some chairmen might like us and hkr back in sl I just don't see that kind of shake up to the system being brought in for next season.

The rfl are reviewing the system, they have updated the minimum ground standards for sl -5000 capacity and min 2000 seats I believe, and there seems to be some talk of requiring a minimum attendance of 6500?! (no idea how they'll make that work) plus with Toulouse and Toronto on the up and wakey playing who knows where next season there is plenty of room for conspiracy theory's and wishes, but I don't see us in sl any time soon.

As a side note, with the rfl rules it goes on to state that clubs competing in the middle 8's need to meet the minimum standard or have aggreed dispensation before the 8's start or they "will be deemed to have finished 6th or lower in the 8's no matter how many games they win." Or words to that effect. So clubs like London wont be allowed to make the mpg or get promoted as far as I read it without rfl dispensation, how many championship clubs meet the new sl minimum ground standards? And who would get dispensation?

A tough call for a promising young kid. Toovey or Pryce? Mmmmm.
'Karl, I can't be assed training tonight, Made in Chelsea is on'.
'OK son. Would like some ice cream?'.

Have you got a link to this? I'm surprised there isn't more being made about this in the press, perhaps nobody has bothered to read it properly yet



As for us going straight back into SL, I can't see it happening. Imagine the reactions at Fax/Fev etc. if we were catapulted straight into the top division after all the drama we've just been through. Don't get me wrong it would be hilarious, but also completely unfair.

Ha, I knew someone would ask, this is probably my worst case of thread drift ever (mods feel free to shift to a new thread if you'd prefer), but the articles from the relevant rfl rules are below; surprised this hasn't been mentioned on the London board. Although to be fair there is also the usual RFL get out clause to all this of dispensation as the rfl see fit, but you can see this causing certain SL and champ clubs pause for thought at least;

[urlhttp://media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section%20A2%20Minimum%20Standards_FINAL%20PDF.pdf[/url

A2:5 For a Club to be eligible for promotion to the Super League or Championship (as applicable) for any Season its ground must meet the Facility Standards of the Super League or Championship (as applicable) or the Board must have granted a dispensation in accordance with A2:3 above by, in each case, the Friday of Round 23 of Super League/Championship in the previous Season (being 22 July 2016 for the 2017 Season). For the avoidance of doubt a dispensation may include an extension of time beyond the date above to complete any work necessary to meet the applicable Facility Standards.

A2:6 Any Championship Club(s) which qualify for the Super 8s Qualifiers but which are not eligible for promotion to the Super League (due to not meeting Facility Standards) shall be entitled to participate in the Super 8s Qualifiers but if, at the end of the Super 8s Qualifiers, any of the Club(s) are 5th or higher in the Qualifiers league: (a) they shall be deemed to have finished 6th (and 7th if there are 2 such Clubs and 8th if there are 3 such Clubs) for the purpose of determining which Clubs are promoted and/or play in the 4th v 5th Play Off Match; but (b) shall be considered to be the highest placed Championship Club(s) (in order of finishing position) for the purpose of determining distributions in the Championship for the following Season.

[urlhttp://media.therfl.co.uk/docs/FACILITYSTANDARDS2016%20final%20PDF.pdf[/url

Capacity
SL – MIN 5000
Champ – MIN 2000

Seats (permanent)
SL- MIN 2000
Champ – MIN 750

Security of tenure – 5yrs

So to sum up, if you are playing in the middle 8's and don't meet the ground standards of 5000 capacity and 2000 seats by July 2016 and you don't get dispensation from the RFL, you cant get promoted or even participate in the MPG as far as I can tell. Which current Champ clubs does that exclude from the middle 8 party?

edit, by my reckoning (quickly done via wiki so could easily be wrong

) half of the current championship are not eligible for the MPG without RFL dispensation;

London - only 3000 capacity
Swinton - only 3387 capacity
Oldham - only 1200 seats
Dewsbury - not enough seats
Toulouse - only 4000 capacity
Sheffield - no 5 yr security of tenure

plus FWIW wakey wouldn't meet the standards either on security of tenure alone at the moment having given notice to leave BV with no announced destination, but I suspect any current SL club would get dispensation and their situation appears very much in flux to say the least.

I'd say that's worth posting in the VT.
Can't see anything about attendance requirements though? Are they mentioned anywhere?

Without re-posting all your very interesting detail - I for one had not seen that info!

If this only comes to light at the seasons end - fireworks all round.

You should post this on TotalRL.com and see what reactions you get there!

Thanks for making the effort BTW..

Not sure I fancy the grief of dipping my toes in the VT


The 6500 average attendance I think was just conjecture or a throw away line in one of many articles about Wakeys situation and the "selling" of a franchise spot that doesn't exist to sell so its probably nothing....for the moment.

Definitely think that there should be something about clubs being admitted in alphabetical order in there.

I've lit the blue touch paper....