Weather you like it or not LSH has been here a very long time and in that time we have not performed on the pitch despite having different head coaches, so you can't tell me the poor performances on the pitch are nothing to do with him its all the head coach's problem!

Why did we start with a rookie on the wing and leave an experienced SL winger on the bench for 60 mins. Why did we have a rookie on the bench and use him for at best in two 5 mins stretches on the field? Who is the coach looking after youngsters or the older experienced players?
Too many players looked disinterested and most of them looked far below SL standard. When we are relegated who is going to sign them, the ones of SL standard have already been signed ie.Scruton, Carvell,Sammut and Bateman.
It's so frustrating after the previous two performances.

I might be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure that when George came on he was actually playing in the second row!
Which, if true, sort of sums up our injury/small squad crisis perfectly.

Problem is, it's not the first "bad day at the office" we have had. Hudds, Saints, Wigan, Leeds, Hull have all put 40+ past us. Salford, KR, Widnes we have already lost to.

We're so many points behind we have to beat some of the big boys as well as the teams around us to stand a chance. Problems is, the teams around us, will also see us as must win game if they want to get in the play-offs. We just seem to be getting massive scores out past us too easily. No steel to the side. The last two results were out of the norm for what has happened this season. Even our victories against Wakey and London were because the opposition played so poor. Hardly vintage performances from ourselves. The games against Catalans and Warrington came after Ferres had to apologise to the fans because things had got so bad.

Agree about with Zapper about St Hilaire, he's not to blame, but he's been there and performances have got worse and worse. Time for someone fresh. Someone who has the bulls spirit, a Henry Paul, Stuart Fielden etc Something has to change though.

George played Left side 2nd row. Foster was ill but still went out there.

I think at one point our 13 guys on the pitch were 1 hooker, 1 prop, 3x2nd row men, 4 centres, 3 wingers and a stand off.

Thats a bit like when we got rid of Basil Richards at the end of 2009 that was going to cure all our ills remind me again how 2010 went.

You could have Wayne Bennett as assistant coach if the top man won't listen nothing he can do.

Doesn't make any difference if Foster was ill he's only in for his goal kicking surely not his attacking or defensive prowess, he's one of the most overhyped players we've signed in my opinion.

The two things are not mutually exclusive though.

Yes. O'Brien was inches short from try which would have been 6 points. Had we scored then, as is common with teams which gain some momentum, there was plenty of time to go and all it would have need to make the mighty 10 would have been one more unconverted try.


You were at the game. You have your on opinion. Gale was most people's MoM or close, but it is common for people who obsesively don't like a player to be blind to the facts. As for your ridiculous straw man, how do you get from Gale having one good game to hallucinating that someone compared Gale to Thurston? What are you on?




I didn't say he was, and his erratic performances have done nothing to enhace his reputation, I have said that he does have some class - ie playing like he played against Warrington is actually within his capabilities - but he has failed to consistently or even often to reach that standard. I said he is OUR "class at half back" which he is, we don't have any more. Whatever or however much that may be, he's it. That's that. And the total lack of direction today proved this. I

Blaming an assistant coach, who I have never heard of as 'defensive coach', for the shortcummins of a team is surreal.

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I'm sure you only come on here for the surreal TT

The entire spine of the team was playing out of position and we're massively light right across the board. Defence wins games and all that, and at times it was dire yesterday, but your attack is setting up the field position for the defence to do its job. We made just shy of 900 metres in the game. On average Saints have conceded 1300 metres per match this year. We made less than 3/4 of the typical dent in their defence. You can have all the defensive coaches in the world but if you're not getting the field position then you haven't got the buffer to keep them out.

The fourth try in the first half was the most disappointing to me and felt like the moment the floodgates were kicked open.

More of the same next week I'm afraid.

It's ok guys,I don't think we were targeting the Saints game.

Agree,Gale has class but its not top imo.I doubt his inclusion would have made a blind bit of difference yesterday as I have yet to see him be a match winner since he arrived.

I am serious though,I don't think we were targeting the Saints game.

No fire power/Pace/Defensive heart---simple as that imo.