Oh, I've been. I go there regularly. I think you miss my point.

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It's a quirky system of assessment that deems Rangi Chase deliberately aiming at the jaw of an opponent (with clearly one primary outcome likely) to be a four match ban and Batemans over zealous, stupid neck grapple to be 3. Both for me were at least 6 matches in their relevant contexts. Chase's tackle however was absolutely disgraceful. Had Ryan Bailey, Lima or Josh Perry done something similar, 8 matches plus would be a foregone.

Having a category for charges is one thing, but it is even more clear every incident has a context and given that, Chase's jaw attack - and that exactly what it was, should have been punished with greater severity. I don't care how good he is or his record. Unacceptable.

Bateman meanwhile, similarly needs to get a grip and find the balance between controlled aggression and absolute stupidity.

I would agree with all of that, except if Chase was deliberate it should have been >8 matches, rest of season would have been justice, but I assume the RFL deemed it not deliberate, just careless/dangerous. As I have said before, possibly the RFL did not have the nerve to judge it deliberate because of the consequences of that decision.

Dont you think that will come with a litle thing called experience? for an 18 year old kid to step up to the best super league have to offer and stand toe to toe with them and prove he wont take a backward step is briliant in my view, he may get a tad over excited but the kid is living his dream of playing for the club he loves, to say he needs to get a grip at 18 year ols in my eyes is a joke if he is still doing things like this in 3-4 years maybe but not now

Neither Bailey nor Lima nor Perry are the current man of steel wanted by Mcnamara for the exiles matches.

Disclaimer: not that I am suggesting that had any influence over the disciplinary decision. I simply wouldn't say such a thing. Definitely nothing to do with the statement above I am merely point out that they aren't the current man of steel and wanted by Steve McNamara for the exiles matches. No link between the two. Nothin to do with it. The disciplinary made their decision based on the evidence, criteria and using their own judgement nothing else. Definitely nothign to with what I said. Oh no that's clear.

Yeah people are getting a bit carried away with this. The lad'll be right don't worry about that.

I'm not at all sure how you can in any way equate the Bateman and Chase incidents. Bateman did a stupid thing, but it was all part and parcel of an ongoing tackle, he just did a brainfart and it was a potentially dangerous one.

Whereas Chase's actions have no place in the game, and even if you accept that he was reckless rather than an intentional strike, if he was being reckless, what was he actually doing? Lucky, lucky boy.

I don't buy into the concept of reckless for an assault of that magnitude. It was an attack to the head, simple. My eyes tell me that. That he hasn't come out and said "I'm sorry, there was absolutely no excuse for what I did and I can't even explain it. I've also taken away the livelihood of a fellow pro and for that reason I would like to donate a months wages to his funds to assist him thought the next few months"

That he hasn't, is gutless and pretty surprising. I'm all for controlled aggression and even a bit of biff when it's toe to toe. Assaulting the jaw when an opponent isnt expecting it should not be on any sports agenda.

I think the nail has been hit on the head there the silence from chase was bemusing, i personally wouldnt have him anywhere near the england team again for this reason alone plus the players we have are better in my opinion

I find it hard to comprehend a pro player doing that to another player. What makes me think the unthinkable is Chase's reaction, similar to Raynor on Tomkins, there seemed absolutley no remorse at the result immediately after the incident. Chase almost seemed to be revelling in it from the videos I've seen. We've all seen numnerous incidents of the defender swinging at the ball & the arm bouncing off the ball or shoulder into the head, followed by the defender acknowledging the mistake.

A huge number of great players would never have gone on to international greatness if that was the case. Barrie McDermott, when he was still Barry, did a worse one on Paul Sironen in that there was absolutely no doubt about his intentions. Mick Cassidy's was as bad. (Not that Cassidy was an international great).

Mick Cassidys attack on Adrian Morley was probably the worst I've seen. Horrendous. I do recall Cassidy however made a public apology. He should probably have apologised for being incredibly overrated, but anyway.

I'm all for heroes and villains, but even Rangi Chase has pushed that boundary. His silence tells me a little of his character. Or therein lack of.

The worst part for me was that after a week of silence the line from Chase/Cas in response to a public outcry was that he'd tried to contact Ropati but hadn't been able to.

Is it that far to drive from Castleford to Featherstone.

It's getting past the barricades that is the problem.

Is it also that hard to ring up and leave a contact number.

Again, had Elima, Bailey, Lima et al performed assault on a fellow pro, the boards would be in meltdown.