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| Quote: M@islebugs "I've got involved because you're massively upselling England's WC performances in support of your Steve McNamara hobby horse. The general tenor of your last few posts is 'indisputably' dressing opinion as fact. Not only that as an erudite fellow who doesn't choose his words randomly, my guess is that it was your 'undisputed' intention to do so. In respect of the specific post 'nobody' is quite a conclusive term.'"
Whoa right there, I don't have a McNamara hobby horse. I didn't start the thread! I didn’t even come in till about page bleedin 7 when I first posted my two penn'orth and that is it. If people then post at me, are you saying I am not allowed to respond? How does that work, then?
As for your general point, everyone on here has their opinions and that's fookin obviously what they are. Surely you aren’t one of these anals who argue every single forum post needs to bear an “in my opinion” caveat?
If you are, then why did you not rebuke the OP in his OP which said
Quote: M@islebugs "Failed again. Miserably. Shame'"
It stated as a fact that McNamara had failed miserably. It didn’t say “in my opinion”. Of course, I KNOW that is ME stating his opinion. But the same logic applies to every other post on a forum so do me a favour and give it a rest.
Bullseye postedCompared with our performance in the last world cup we have improved under McNamara!
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He didn’t say “in his opinion” we have improved. Why don’t you berate him for claiming it is a fact?
Tigertot stated baldlyThat was easily the best England/GB performance in over 20 years. '"
he didn’t feel the need to say it is, ultimately, just his opinion. You didn’t pull him up for dressing his opinion up as fact. Why not?
If I am not allowed to state things then why are you? The sort of things you have specified are normal conversation. In exactly the same way as You saidBurgess and Graham were outstanding. '"
You didn’t say “In my opinion, Burgess and Graham were outstanding.” Of course, any reasonable person would agree with you, but the point is, this is the sort of “fact” that isn’t, literally, a fact yet a device which people reasonably use all the time.
In the second paragraph of that post you stated the following as facts:
· The halves have been poor
· Sinfield has not demonstrated he should have been picked above Brough.
· His kicking game yesterday was shocking
· it should have been Brough/Widdop from the start.
How it works on a forum, as in any informal convo, is that you say “The halves have been poor”; You might even say “Indisputably the halves have been poor. FACT” It doesn’t matter. It just means you, personally, wouldn’t brook any disagreement and anyone who does disagree is, in your opinion, wrong. Someone else may say “No, the halves have been good”; and you might then discuss your respective views. To instead analyse the claim and launch into some sterile discussion as to whether or not you were in fact “dressing up” your opinions that the halves have been poor/Sinfield’s kicking game was shocking, as “facts “ is pointless and silly. At least in the case of ME it cam as no surprise as he does anal rather well, but you?
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A mid season Test series would never get off the ground for numerous reasons, one being logistics, two, opposition from NRL sides having to release their Kiwis and Aussies for rep duties. And the NZ warriors releasing majority of their side. Nice idea, but it will not get off the ground. McNamara proved once again he hasn't got it at top level.
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| Quote: Bulls4Champs "A mid season Test series would never get off the ground for numerous reasons, one being logistics, two, opposition from NRL sides having to release their Kiwis and Aussies for rep duties. And the NZ warriors releasing majority of their side. Nice idea, but it will not get off the ground. McNamara proved once again he hasn't got it at top level.'"
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“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22
"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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How about the cream of English talent play the cream of overseas talent in SL in a mid-season series?
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“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Tigertot stated baldly'"
And I am not bald. FACT. |
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I could be soon as this debate is nearly makinge pull my hair out. In my opinion
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Whoa right there, I don't have a McNamara hobby horse. I didn't start the thread! I didn’t even come in till about page bleedin 7 when I first posted my two penn'orth and that is it. If people then post at me, are you saying I am not allowed to respond? How does that work, then?
As for your general point, everyone on here has their opinions and that's fookin obviously what they are. Surely you aren’t one of these anals who argue every single forum post needs to bear an “in my opinion” caveat?
If you are, then why did you not rebuke the OP in his OP which said
It stated as a fact that McNamara had failed miserably. It didn’t say “in my opinion”. Of course, I KNOW that is ME stating his opinion. But the same logic applies to every other post on a forum so do me a favour and give it a rest.
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Utterly shameless ham!! You flew a big red flag to all us 'anti-McNamara trolls' and now you're all wounded. Just one point on forum etiquette, when you spout utter sh1£e on a forum and call it 'indisputable fact' - get ready. This is merely a humble opinion.
However, an indisputable fact, supported by evidence and tested hypothesis, is that McNamara should be shot.
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This thread will be locked soon. FACT. In my opinion obviously.
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| Quote: M@islebugs "Utterly shameless ham!! You flew a big red flag to all us 'anti-McNamara trolls' and now you're all wounded. Just one point on forum etiquette, when you spout utter sh1£e on a forum and call it 'indisputable fact' - get ready. This is merely a humble opinion.
However, an indisputable fact, supported by evidence and tested hypothesis, is that McNamara should be shot.'"
OK MBugs (and all Macsabaters). re-run time. pretend that Macsabater was not the England coach for that last game. Yes, put it clear out of your mind, indeed put in your favourite coach instead and now answer the question: was that a performance to be proud of at the 79th minute, yes or no? |
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| Quote: martinwildbull "OK MBugs (and all Macsabaters). re-run time. pretend that Macsabater was not the England coach for that last game. Yes, put it clear out of your mind, indeed put in your favourite coach instead and now answer the question
People keep referring to the NZ game and judging Englands entire WC campaign based on this 1 match, what about the other 4 games?
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| Quote: M@islebugs "Utterly shameless ham!! You flew a big red flag to all us 'anti-McNamara trolls' and now you're all wounded. '"
"Wounded"? You couldn't actually think that I give a flying fart about what you might say? I mean, I'm to varying degrees entertained by forum chat, which is why I do it, but ... honestly? ![]()
You're wasted on ME (and definitely SM). We need you on the OK Bulls bye bye thread NOW.  |
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By far the most sensible posts on this thread have come from mystic eddie. - copyright Ewwenorfolk 09.04.2013
Aye, and Eddie is hinting at it too. And, as we all know:
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You actually think you are winding me up FA?
Let me tell you something. Three weeks ago I lost, very suddenly, my father who was my hero and best mate. I, probs most on this page recently, know the feeling of being either gutted or devastated. I can assure you that that feeling will not go away in my case, for a long time, if indeed ever.
Devastating is NOT losing one game of rugby, despite how some people want to say. (Not you incidentally)
You ain't winding me up at all. If you were I would have stopped posting given my mind at the moment. On the contrary, I am enjoying the debate. It is a nice release.
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I understand the final books of the "Song of Ice and Fire" series will feature a new family from Westeros called the Bulls. They don't get involved in the wider saga but all end up killing each other - in my opinionicon_smile.gif
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| Quote: mystic eddie "You actually think you are winding me up FA?
Let me tell you something. Three weeks ago I lost, very suddenly, my father who was my hero and best mate. I, probs most on this page recently, know the feeling of being either gutted or devastated. I can assure you that that feeling will not go away in my case, for a long time, if indeed ever.
Devastating is NOT losing one game of rugby, despite how some people want to say. (Not you incidentally)
You ain't winding me up at all. If you were I would have stopped posting given my mind at the moment. On the contrary, I am enjoying the debate. It is a nice release.'"
Eddie,sorry to hear that.Hope you can find a way to keep your chin up |
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