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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "He even chose to ignore a 20m restart being taken when a Catalan player was still offside - yet bizarrely pulled us up on one where I'm certain the last man - Scruton - had got back.
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I have to say that baffled me. All of our players were behind the 20m line for sure.

The worst decision for me had to be the 'six to go' call when a Catalan grubber kick hit one of our players feet from 20cm away. How you can class that as six to go is beyond me.

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Well then why dont the TJ's speak to the ref, that should be their job to police the defensive line, they hardly call forward passes the refs spots most of them.

And they arent very confident at saying a players has gone into touch, seen it plenty of time the ref ask them and they have shrugged as they dont know, ITS THEIR ONLY REAL JOB and they are only certain if the player is nearly in the stands.

We should have VR at every game or at no game, some situations, tries will be given when they arent, and ruled out when they are, we all want consistency and this is the most inconsistent part, i do remember a time (few season ago mind when ian smith was officiating) when we had VR at all games maybe not a screen but the ref was able to refer to the VR.
More to point why would their be extra cost all games have a TV crew at them and they employ 2 refs to stand in-goal at non televised games to judge, so why not sack one of them off, put the other in a a secluded room with no interruptions until after the game and allow them to watch in game replays, and in a similar vein the VR should be used to find reasons to disallow tries and not reasons to allow them.

Did look to me like sammut put his foot to the ball the "charge down" is a different kettle of fish Langley turned as the ball was kicked and it hit him in the back of the head, how is that a charge down, and their where 7 tackles, foster tipped the looping pass down which restarts the tackle count so the next tackle would have been 1 if im not mistaken they then got 6 more after that, even bentham went to stand in their line but the Catalan player played it instead, then bentham wussed out and allowed the play to carry on from which they got another set of 6 then scored.

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Whilst I'm no big supporter of the video ref I DO think that all games should be refereed under the same rules and conditions. I think they should be at all games or none at all.

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Quote: BullCharge "I have to say that baffled me. All of our players were behind the 20m line for sure.

The worst decision for me had to be the 'six to go' call when a Catalan grubber kick hit one of our players feet from 20cm away. How you can class that as six to go is beyond me.'"


I thought it was played at.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "

He even chose to ignore a 20m restart being taken when a Catalan player was still offside - yet bizarrely pulled us up on one where I'm certain the last man - Scruton - had got back.
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If we're thinking of the same incident, then he pulled it back for not tapping it on the mark. Scruton was onside but actually stood in the way of where the tap restart should have been played.

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Quote: vbfg "I thought it was played at.'"

I would agree, he did appear to attempt to block it with his foot. The ruling that infuriates me is when refs waved another set of six when a defender makes contact with the ball whilst attempting a tackle. Why is good pressure defence in effect penalised and the attacker rewarded with another six? Baffles me..

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "I would agree, he did appear to attempt to block it with his foot. The ruling that infuriates me is when refs waved another set of six when a defender makes contact with the ball whilst attempting a tackle. Why is good pressure defence in effect penalised and the attacker rewarded with another six? Baffles me..'"


I think the same regarding drop goals, a player charges down the drop goal then gets penalised for their had work. The tackle count should still continue from the last play imo.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I do not think that the referee, if asked, would honestly reply that yes, he genuinely felt Catalans mainatined the 10 for every tackle, for the full 80. And as no team ever did that, he would be lying if he did. But why did he never pull them for offside? Keeping his eye on other things? Choosing not to look? I have no idea, but it really infuriated the crowd, and it wasn't the only thing that did. Many's the time that most of their team blatantly lined up ahead of Bentham but he ignored it. (Lest I am accused of bias - I'm not - he didn't pull us either, and I think the pen count ended up quite even)'"


I'm glad i'm not the only one to have noticed the "quick" defences.

The problem with the Bulls is that we are too honest, and we retreat the 10 and then wait for the ball to be played. Big teams like Catalan then gain momentum and run over the forwards.

I have noticed that Wigan were masters at this when they last came to Odsal. Our forwards struggled to make 20 meters in a set of 5. They 'appeared' quick in defence, but they were all pushing through before the ball was played.

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Towards the end of the game on Sunday I was thinking that not one penalty had to be given against either team for offside,don't care how disciplined the teams are,this just cannot happen

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Here's a merge of 3 images of the ridiculously forward passhttps://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/boiledvark/forward_zpscdabc04a.jpg" >

It isn't of course quite as forward as it looks from the stills, as momentum does come into play, but unless there is a huge hole in Langley, the ball had to come from behind that position, and all the officials missing it, despite a huge roar from the crowd who all saw it instantly, clearly, from every part of the ground, is just an inexplicable travesty'"
Congratulations on an excellant piece of detective work.

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Quote: Bull Mania "I agrees he made some howlers. The back to 0 he gave it hit langleys back was an awful call, particularly when he ignored what I thought were some blatant attempts at the ball from Catalans and didn't wipe the tackle count.

The 7 tackle accusation I can't comment on. I thought they had too many tackles but I thought that's because he gave zero. Not happy that all 6 officials missed some of the foul play on our players.

That said it was in our hands and we have thrown it away. Even wen Kearney was sin binned the Henderson try was as soft as they come. Basic school boy errors like not crouching down at the play the ball. Unforunately them silly school boy errors have cost us many points throughout the season and that's the reason we're not in the play-offs, not because of Benthams inept display.'"


Did anyone see how Diskin was obstructed by the player who played the ball to Henderson which resulted in the last try. He looked to be holding him back?

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Quote: Rarebreed "Did anyone see how Diskin was obstructed by the player who played the ball to Henderson which resulted in the last try. He looked to be holding him back?'"


Didn't notice anything much really. I did notice the gap between Walker and Diskin. Such a basic try, neither were crouched and they left a gaping hole which Henderson just fell into. Diskin and Walker were signed for their experience then go and do something that even an 18 year old should be bollicked for!

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I've just watched the SLTV tries. For the first Bulls tries there were 2 line balls in the build up - one from Gale (who got flattened in the process) & the money ball (!) from Addy. Neither deserved to be called forward & no amount of high tech gizmo could prove it either way. Similarly the Bosc pass, there's no way would I say it was definitely forward. Diskin was not obstructed in any remote way for the last try, he was too ashamed to lift his head up never mind complain to the ref.
I don't know what stick Pryce took, if any, but his reactions seemed rather OTT.

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OTT? Pryce's reactions to winning were so OTT I thought he'd just found out he'd won the Euromillions.

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I heard that their Karl was calling him a big soft nonce from the touchline all game.

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