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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Personally I got sick to death of people gratuitously launching in here with purely [iad hominem[/i flames, that add nothing whatsoever to any discussion, and just badmouth a poster. It has been thankfully relatively rare of late, although I suspect sadly only due to a rearguard action against administration trolls. Are we really back to this? No need for it at all. Some people seriously need to grow up.'"


Really? Who posted this then?

'So some guy asks fans on the Bradford forum where to go and you get some assholes saying "Don't go, go to Leeds". What a set of losers! Why are these people even on here? Even if you can't find anything to suit your delicate tastes, why tell someone who specifically said they are stopping here, about a city in which they are not, er, stopping? Morons'

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Quote: M@islebugs "Really? Who posted this then?

'So some guy asks fans on the Bradford forum where to go and you get some assholes saying "Don't go, go to Leeds". What a set of losers! Why are these people even on here? Even if you can't find anything to suit your delicate tastes, why tell someone who specifically said they are stopping here, about a city in which they are not, er, stopping? Morons''"


Why you would try to compare that I have no clue. But essentially if someone comes clumping in, derailing a perfectly reasonable request for information by insulting Bradford gratuitously, then I see no problem in remonstrating with them and sticking up for the old place. Or do you think the poster who said "Go to Leeds" was just innocently trying to be helpful, and not on the insulting wind-up? I don't.

Responses to insulting windups, and [iad hominem[/i attacks for no reason other than to disparage a poster are not imho in any way comparable.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Why you would try to compare that I have no clue. But essentially if someone comes clumping in, derailing a perfectly reasonable request for information by insulting Bradford gratuitously, then I see no problem in remonstrating with them and sticking up for the old place. Or do you think the poster who said "Go to Leeds" was just innocently trying to be helpful, and not on the insulting wind-up? I don't.

Responses to insulting windups, and [iad hominem[/i attacks for no reason other than to disparage a poster are not imho in any way comparable.'"



Oh come on, I was only having a laugh. I've actually come to enjoy your arguments with those who come on and 'have a go' and I never thought I'd say that.

As for ad hominem, for better or worse Adey puts himself out there and is well able to get the Doc Martens on when he needs to.

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Quote: M@islebugs "Oh come on, I was only having a laugh. I've actually come to enjoy your arguments with those who come on and 'have a go' and I never thought I'd say that.

As for ad hominem, for better or worse Adey puts himself out there and is well able to get the Doc Martens on when he needs to.'"


Soz, I obviously missed that. And I was in no way sticking up for Adey - even if that is the effect - just -as usual -sticking in my twopenn'orth. icon_smile.gif

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So, just a "quick look", that "made your blood boil", also had "lots of interesting stuff" and "puzzling omissions". Doesn't sound like a quick look to me! If you have seen ANYTHING why not share it? Oh, the irony, normally you can type chapter and verse on any speculation, but when you actually know something, you just suggest things............

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Riiiiight, can we get back on topic now please.

Any further sniping will be deleted.

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Quote: jammle "Apparently Wakey voted against us.
If Trinity voted against us , so be it.
I was under the impression that proof of funding had been requested and supplied before the business plan went in.
What worries me is if the 10p in the £ is true. Forgive my ignorance but I thought that a percentage of the creditors would have to agree or is it different for a newco?

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Quote: Bullseye "Riiiiight, can we get back on topic now please.

Any further sniping will be deleted.'"


Closet Rhino. Does that count?

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Quote: Bullnorthern "If Trinity voted against us , so be it.
I was under the impression that proof of funding had been requested and supplied before the business plan went in.
What worries me is if the 10p in the £ is true. Forgive my ignorance but I thought that a percentage of the creditors would have to agree or is it different for a newco?'"


Don't think it is a Newco though. The bid takes on the existing company with the existing debt which will need to be resolved - one way or t'other. Otherwise all current contracts would be void and all the players could immediately leave.

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Quote: jammle "Apparently Wakey voted against us.
Nope, it wasn't Wakefield. If it's true, the club is one a lot closer to home.

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"The 2 Bidders"

Why worry which bid will win ? ..... We all know bulls are "TOO BIG TO FAIL", and the RL will pick the best bid for a bad job.

If you don't believe me just keep watching this space !

Having said that!. You have not be the first, second, nor will be the last to go into financial meltdown, and be in this position.

Other Clubs no doubt are close to the financial tipping edge too.


Will they get the same amount of time, and help from RL clubs to sort the mess out ? I doubt it !
( We all, just got to keep watching this space I guess! )

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Quote: mr loki ""The 2 Bidders"

Why worry which bid will win ? ..... We all know bulls are "TOO BIG TO FAIL", and the RL will pick the best bid for a bad job.

If you don't believe me just keep watching this space !

Having said that!. You have not be the first, second, nor will be the last to go into financial meltdown, and be in this position.

Other Clubs no doubt are close to the financial tipping edge too.


Will they get the same amount of time, and help from RL clubs to sort the mess out ?
( Just got to keep watching this space I guess! )'"


Congratulations you win the "Best Formatted Post Ever" award.

Just a shame the content was so poor.

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Wakefield, Cas, Salford, Widnes would never vote to have bradford outside of SL. If Bulls go to NL1 they would win everything going, build up a strong support and make a good case to come back in to SL at the expense of an existing SL club. If Bradford are allowed to stay in SL they will be weaker on the pitch, lose games and not build support as History shows that Bradford public will only watch a side that wins easily each week. Therefore Bradford will not be seen as a threat to other SL club chairmen. This is what is so wrong with SL, chairmen given a vote on RL issues vote based on what is good for their club and not for the good of the game. Club Chairmen should not be given a say, the game needs people from outside to come in and run it making decisions on what is best for RL not what is best for ` my club `.

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Jockabull !, Pity you could not say it was untrue . ! " ,.

(BUT never mind), that is RL for you .

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Quote: Bulliac "Don't think it is a Newco though. The bid takes on the existing company with the existing debt which will need to be resolved - one way or t'other. Otherwise all current contracts would be void and all the players could immediately leave.'"


No, completely the opposite. You are conflating the old company (the one in administration) with the business which that company runs (the Bradford Bulls) but they are not one and the same thing. The buyer would 100% definitely be a newco, whoever it was. I would bet my house that NO buyer will "take on the existing debt". Why would anybody do that? They wouldn't! Would you?

Any buyer will make the administrator an offer for the business and he'll accept or reject it. If a deal is done, the buyer buys the business, the old company (in administration) gets the dosh, what's left after fees gets divvied. Essentially, the business is sold as a going concern, which is what Guilfoyle has said all along he was aiming to do.

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