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Quote: redeverready "Doubt it would be allowed as the said player would be employed by a 3rd party.'"

Maybe he could be employed part-time by the club on a nominal wage and also be employed as Debaser's butler.

"I say, Slater. Fetch my hat would you?"

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But if the said player is employed by a 3rd party, how coulod that be counted on the Bulls salary cap. I am openly admitting I am paying him and letting him play for the Bulls.

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Quote: Adeybull "Suspect you would be "connected" because you are a season ticket holder...?'"


I would hope that if I was paying for the Bulls star player, I would not still have to buy a season ticket... icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Stul "Maybe he could be employed part-time by the club on a nominal wage and also be employed as Debaser's butler.

"I say, Slater. Fetch my hat would you?"'"


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Quote: Adeybull "Suspect you would be "connected" because you are a season ticket holder...?'"

Could Debaser not just pay said player for certain services? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: debaser "On the money issue, say I won euromillions and wanted to buy and pay a player for the Bulls - would that be counted on the cap? I have no financial links to the club and would be happy to show the RFL that I was the one paying thier wages.
How would that work?'"


the regulations:

5.1 The “Salary Cap Value” of a Player is the total sum of the Gross payments and
other benefits that are paid or payable by a Club or Accrue (or are deemed to Accrue,
in accordance with this Clause 5) to the Player in the relevant Salary Cap Year,
whether pursuant to a Playing Contract or other arrangement (verbal or otherwise), in
consideration for or otherwise on account of the Player’s provision of playing (or
related) services to the Club in that Salary Cap Year.

Debaser, note the words "or other arrangement". Its the usual catch-all in such rules, so basically if anybody is paid by for example god to play for the Bulls it still counts towards the cap.

given such a catch-all, how the hell do Warrington pay for the 127 internationals in their squad????!!! By even more devious words such as media rights, etc as Adey has implied.

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You might suppose that; I could not [ipossibly[/i comment... eusa_whistle.gif

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Ok - if we are trying to come up with alternatives... How about it is the player who wins the lottery and is a lifelong Bradford fan. Ie Widdop. He comes to the club and says I don't really need any money so give me a nominal sum (£1) and I'll play for free. Would that work?

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there is nothing expressly against that, however 5.1 says it is the value of the players not simply the actual salary benefits etc paid to them, these are of course included as the obvious way to calculate the value of a player. so I suspect that 5.2.2 (h) would be invoked and they would assign a deemed salary benefits bonuses etc cap value to Widdop:

(h) such other transactions as the RSCM determines should be treated
as payments to a Player;

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Those regulations make the Warrington situation all the more baffling then. Even if the players do accept a lower wage then most accept they should be earning, their value must exceed this.

It's a mystery.

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Exactly - who decides value. Basically that means there should be someone who is excellent at creating fantasy teams at Red Hall who can apply relative value

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Quote: Highlander "Ok - if we are trying to come up with alternatives... How about it is the player who wins the lottery and is a lifelong Bradford fan. Ie Widdop. He comes to the club and says I don't really need any money so give me a nominal sum (£1) and I'll play for free. Would that work?'"


There may be historical precedent. Despite various wassocks on other forums asserting that we breached the salary cap in 2005 by the temporary signing of Mozza, I was given to understand that his cost for salary cap purposes was sort of...zero. Ways and means, no doubt.

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Quote: mat "Wouldn't get overexcited about moon yet. I was first to post rumour on here and I got it off t&a forum so it's dubious at best. Nzw fans think he's going to Canberra.'"


If it came from the T&A forum, with nothing else to even suggest it anywhere else, forget it IMO. I cannot see it being a realistic possibility. Remember we had loads of these phantom signings last year - folk just get excited, then blame the club for "lack of ambition" or whatever when they don't happen! This one was never going to happen either.

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Can't they just employ the player for like £50,000 a year, then employ their wife to do bar work for say £100,000???

I'm sure that's what we used to do.#

Or pay the player £90,000 and employ him to do promotional work for the club too paying them £60,000 for a certain amount of hours promo work?

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