But your entire point about the kit being "sellable" is contradicted by the fact that it sold out - (which brings us back to where I came in..!) so it seems that at some level Kooga do know what they are doing. What relevance is turnaround time on re-orders when making the first order of the kit, which is the point I'm making. The Bulls underestimated initial demand for the kit for whatever reason and the time it took to get it back in stock was almost entirely the fault of Kooga. But as for not ordering enough in the first place I don't see how there isn't a bit of blame on both parts.

As an aside - how do you know "numbers weren't there" for last years kit- what exactly do you mean? Is this guesswork on your part or something more official? I agree with you that this years kit was dreadful for the record.

tbh if its the one posted earlier in this thread then its quite a nice shirt. Personally I'd buy it but I still hope they go for a more traditional design this year.

I refer to the orders post initial sell out, which are always likely to do so since fans are incredibly loyal and the club will always sell a specific amount whatever it looks like. That isn't the point, it's the subsequent sales that are significant for clubs locally and on a wider scale. How many did South sell around 15 years ago when every man, his dog and meerkat had one. Similarly with Quins.

Simply ask a senior official at the club or Andrea in the shop. The point will become clearer.

Most of Kooga's kits are gash. The Wallabies new kit a prime example.

Those were just links to someones own mockups. Apparently the chap with the sneak peak says its based on this years kit which I consider dire.

Seconded

I wasnt referring to those. I meant the one the club used in the trade advert for the shirt sponsorship.

Where is this posted Mat?

forgot we're on the 2nd 2011 kit thread. was posted on the first one and its on the club website somewhere.

hang on a sec and I'll find a link

This is one I was referring to. about halfway down page.

rlhttps://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f

Presumably the club were given a choice of designs, boy would I like to see the ones they rejected

Purple and black apparently. No idea on the deisgn yet though.

thing with that one is, that whilst not a traditional design, the instant thing I think of when i see it is flames- which leads to phoenix from ashes/rebirth type images which club could market round (and phoenix bit could tie in with harry potter theme they are using in the marketing).

The Harry Potter sketch has limited mileage and appeal. Not to mention the legalities of it's use. Used it, that should be where it ends.