FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Sam Burgess to Union
39 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
International Star1011No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



He would need to come back to England and all of his family are down under. England don't pick players playing outside of UK. But that offer if true could set him up for life and he could then return to league three years later. What a great offer for him if true. Oh where did I go wrong?

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman17146No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Having gone off the wagon & watching 5 minutes of yawnion on Saturday, why the hell would anyone want to play that stinking pile of poop? Sam is hardly destitute now.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1149
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2019Nov 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: tigertot "Having gone off the wagon & watching 5 minutes of yawnion on Saturday, why the hell would anyone want to play that stinking pile of poop? Sam is hardly destitute now.'"


Regrettably no one has ever offered me £2m for a couple of years work, so I cannot claim to speak from experience - but looking at examples close to hand probably the same reason that Henry P, Big Les and Hape did brief laps at Twickenham.

The RFU would not bat an eyelid about playing 15 ex-Bulls players - providing of course they came from NZ

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman17146No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



But those players had arguably achieved all they were likely to in league. Burgess is on the brink of greatness at the highest level possible in either code. He can retire to yawnion in 5 years.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1149
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2019Nov 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: tigertot "But those players had arguably achieved all they were likely to in league. Burgess is on the brink of greatness at the highest level possible in either code. He can retire to yawnion in 5 years.'"


Fair point but the other factor is the amount of "celebrity status" yawnion players seem to command in this country which would probably mean offers to go dancing on Saturday evenings in the autumn and no doubt a multi-million pound deal for modelling Y-fronts like Dan Carter. I had hoped that one day Big Sam would have lifted the Rugby League World Cup.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1323No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Mar 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Northernrelic "Fair point but the other factor is the amount of "celebrity status" yawnion players seem to command in this country which would probably mean offers to go dancing on Saturday evenings in the autumn and no doubt a multi-million pound deal for modelling Y-fronts like Dan Carter. I had hoped that one day Big Sam would have lifted the Rugby League World Cup.'"


I can see that as a fair point if he were ever planning to live back here.

I figure he's probably going to stay where he is, in which case he's in the best sport to be considered a celebrity.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3216
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Maybe he just wants some kind of "dual-code" contract like SBW where he can dip in and out of either team, dependent on where each code is in the World cup (or British Lions) cycle.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1722No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2018Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Not according to Souths

rlhttps://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12196/9152475/south-sydney-rabbitohs-no-rugby-union-approach-for-england-forward-sam-burgessrl

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach523No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2016Nov 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Is Caisley still his 'agent'?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach4003
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Bullseye "I don't think Burgess is quick enough for centre really. He's skilful and more than big enough but taking endless "crash balls" would be an utter waste of talent. However I suppose it would beat leaning on the side of a maul or getting his ar5e raked at the bottom of a ruck.'"


I just knew you were a closet rah rah fan! icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach4003
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Well the story doing the Hack rounds is that Sam didn't like having his hands slapped by McGuire for some ""trivial"" disciplinary incidents and that the Team Inglis especially didn't appreciate Sam and the Brothers getting all the extra publicity. Also Sam gets mercilessly pilloried by the Oz ereatti as being an out and out thug when he's no worse than anyone else in the NRL

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach8877No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2023Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: tigertot "Having gone off the wagon & watching 5 minutes of yawnion on Saturday, why the hell would anyone want to play that stinking pile of poop? Sam is hardly destitute now.'"


Because he will realise that Union offers so much more than League ever will?

Like a genuine world game? A competitive international game and World Cup? Financial gain? Crowds? Heineken Cup? Lions tours?

RU is lightyears ahead of RL. Burgess will be well aware of this.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman17146No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: mystic eddie "Because he will realise that Union offers so much more than League ever will?

Like a genuine world game? A competitive international game and World Cup? Financial gain? Crowds? Heineken Cup? Lions tours?

RU is lightyears ahead of RL. Burgess will be well aware of this.'"


Having grown up playing and watching yawnion I feel qualified to say it is a pile of boring poop compared to league. Just because it is hyped up by the press doesn't mean that Burgess will find it satisfying. As much as it gets huge publicity & international crowds yawnion is not a world game, it is played competitively in only a handful more countries than league. 90% of the world will not have seen a game.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach8877No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2023Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: tigertot "Having grown up playing and watching yawnion I feel qualified to say it is a pile of boring poop compared to league. Just because it is hyped up by the press doesn't mean that Burgess will find it satisfying. As much as it gets huge publicity & international crowds yawnion is not a world game, it is played competitively in only a handful more countries than league. 90% of the world will not have seen a game.'"


I am not arguing that the game is not very dull. It is. RL is the superior game to watch, but RU is BY FAR the bigger game worldwide.

Let's just have a wee look.

Internationally we have the 6 nations, the southern hemisphere four nations, the Autumn test series, and a World Cup with a number of sides with a hope, rather than not having a prayer.

There are strong sides in Aus, NZ, South Africa, England, Ireland, Argentina, France and Wales. There are secondary countries like Scotland, Italy, Samoa, Tonga, Romania, and Fiji.

Club wise there are strong leagues in France, England, Japan, Ireland, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia. There is the Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup, Super 15, Celtic League, Anglo Welsh Cup.

Despite your claim that 90% have not seen a game and it is only played of a handful more countries than league there are 101 registered international RU playing nations.

There is also a World Sevens competition annually.

You usually have it spot on TT (in fact you are one of the few I cannot ever remember arguing with icon_wink.gif ) but these claims really do make you sound like so many other RL fans with a chip on their shoulder in regards to the other code. There is so much jealousy from RL towards the other code it is untrue.

Back in the days when the Amateur RU game existed, I doubt there was much dissent from RL fans when the better Union players switched codes. Now the shoe is on the other foot it is a source of derision.

Like it or not, RU has a strong international audience and participation, RL is pretty much only played to any standard in four COUNTIES in the world, Lancashire, Yorkshire, NSW and Queensland.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9986No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2019Aug 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: mystic eddie "

Like it or not, RU has a strong international audience and participation, RL is pretty much only played to any standard in four COUNTIES in the world, Lancashire, Yorkshire, NSW and Queensland.'"


Utter nonsense.

What about Merseyside, Cheshire, Greater Manchester and Humberside? icon_wink.gif

39 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
39 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.41162109375:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Looking for a Good Time Connect with Local Ladies in Your T
hcc
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
10s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
2630
10s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
546
34s
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
45s
Realistic targets for 2025
Jake the Peg
143
54s
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
17
54s
2025 Recruitment
bowlinboy
228
4m
2025 Kit
Marvin Goola
17
4m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63297
4m
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
4m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40832
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Looking for a Good Time Connect with Local Ladies in Your T
hcc
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
12
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,488 80,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Looking for a Good Time Connect with Local Ladies in Your T
hcc
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
10s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
2630
10s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
546
34s
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
45s
Realistic targets for 2025
Jake the Peg
143
54s
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
17
54s
2025 Recruitment
bowlinboy
228
4m
2025 Kit
Marvin Goola
17
4m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63297
4m
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
4m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40832
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Looking for a Good Time Connect with Local Ladies in Your T
hcc
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
12
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!