I have to agree. If we lose tomorrow it's going to be a real struggle.

Can't believe Hull KR won away in Catalans. That's pretty much ballsed up most predictions now.

We really needed Rovers to lose against every team they played who are above them in the table.
I think them beating Catalans tonight is probably the end of our playoff hopes.

It certainly will be if we don't win tomorrow

We HAVE to beat Widnes now, or its basically season over

Probably if we loose against Widnes we might be out of the top 8 but that's not a certainty.

Hull FC have the easiest run in with only 2 games against top 4 teams -Huddersfield and Wigan with 2 games agianst top 8 contenders Hull Kr & Bradford

Hiull KR have 2 top 4 teams to play in Wigan & Wolves + games v Saints & Hull FC contending for the top 8.

The Bulls play Wolves, Wigan and Huddersfield out of the top 4 then top 8 contenders Hull and Catalans.

Catalalns are drawn into the fight for a top 8 spot after their recent loss. they play Huddersfield, Wigan, Leeds, Wolves out of the top 4 and Saints and Bradford for competition for the top 8.

It's not going to be the games, it will be the psychological factor of another loss, I realy dont think we could recover from it confidence will wane and it will be like 2010 where we lost 12 or so games on the trot.

Finishing 9 is nothing to be sniffed at considering everything of last year and the fact we are on half the cash of everyone else and that they have divided up the money themselves, would would be nice to get into the 8 and have a decent go at it. Either way if we do get into the 8 we will most likely play wigan.

And it lose bob not loose

Isnt there club call this year?

Not in week 1.

Realistically now I can't see us making the 8 after Hull KRs result yesterday,one result won't end our season but looking at each others fixtures that really wasn't on their list of possible wins.They still have maybe 4 probable wins,which would be too much for us

Today is must win. Our home games are going to be key, especially Hull & Catalans.

I think predictions go out of the window towards be end of be season (who would have thought we would have gone to Wigan and beat them last year)

We have to take each game as it comes.

Agreed.

A win keeps our play off hopes alive.

A loss and I feel we won't have enough time to make up the ground.

COYB

18-10 at HT a vastly improved display from bulls, some dodgy tacking still lurking around.

Dodgy call from hicks saying Brown was dragged to touch he was tackled by Kearney who in the process of tackling took him over the line if anything it was a push, but he fell with the tackle out of touch don't know how he came to that decision or a drag.

Some work still to do attacking play seems to he kicking up a gear we have paniced once or twice in thir 20 but a massive improvement from what we saw last, just have to shore up defense abit but looking promising.

28-32 dire 2nd half just like we are used to platts try was the only highlight

Anyone else got deja vu? Remember as we plunged into the abyss with Mr M in charge and only began to climb out when Potter took over? Second half losses and lousy defence have to be down to the coach...