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| Quote: paulwalker71 "Are you saying the club haven't even contacted the people with the 10 year season tickets to inform them?'"
The club believe everyone was told last year when we got our annual phone call asking if we wanted to pay to be members. Neither me or my dad recall having that conversation with them, but I do remember the call abouto me paying to be a member. Marc was very kind to offer to speak to me earlier and listen to my frustrations and why I was upset by it and I totally understand the clubs reasons. Whether it is cost effective for me to get a season ticket is another matter but Marc was very honest and his reasons for this are justifiable.
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| Quote: Liane "The club believe everyone was told last year when we got our annual phone call asking if we wanted to pay to be members. Neither me or my dad recall having that conversation with them, but I do remember the call abouto me paying to be a member. Marc was very kind to offer to speak to me earlier and listen to my frustrations and why I was upset by it and I totally understand the clubs reasons. Whether it is cost effective for me to get a season ticket is another matter but Marc was very honest and his reasons for this are justifiable.'"
I must say you are being remarkably decent about this - I think I'd have been absolutely fuming!
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "I must say you are being remarkably decent about this - I think I'd have been absolutely fuming!'"
I was fuming and upset by it and Marc knows this. When I paid that £1,000 I didn't have the job I do now and it was a sacrifice on a lot of things and I didn't feel that was appreciated. Before I spoke to Marc I felt like we were being seen as easy targets. Having spoke to Marc (I never asked he offered to speak to me when I rung in) I now understand and appreciate Marc's point of view. I still think they could have done something else, even if it was ask us to pay £118 rather than £218. I still love the club I just need to work out if a season ticket is an option or whether I go for a flexi. If we did a 7 game season ticket I'd take that option straight away.
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| Wow, 45 people sent a £1000 for ten year tickets and the club have now f*cked them over, I'd be extremely peed off and wouldn't darken Odsals doors again. Those 45 would probably spend money on merchandise like shirts if they were big enough fans to stump up in the first place so regardless of Green's reason I'd say it is bad business. I really feel for those fans, I do hope nobody bought a 25 year option.
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| Gotta be honest, the two fans on here who have been stung with this are being a lot more decent about it than I'd be. No "gift of the gab" words from Green would have me doing anything but telling him to shove it up his backside. If I was in that situation, I wouldn't spend a single penny at the club again until the other 5 years was honoured. Perhaps that makes me a lesser fan than those who are considering still going. Or maybe I'm just too stuck on doing the right thing and standing up to those who don't.
Either way you look at it, Marc Green and the club have shafted those loyal fans. Whether his reasons were acceptable or not, they've been shafted. And I am a little embarrassed at the club doing it considering they're constantly asking us to be loyal to them.
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| This is so bonkers it's almost unbelievable! To shaft 45 supporters like this who were willing to commit to the club for 10 years (albeit at a good discount) is ludicrous.
It does beg the question whether next year's 5% (wow!) reduction and 2018 20%/free offers will be honoured? Great ideas, but they need to be backed up with an inherent trust factor that they'll not be cast aside if the going gets even tougher.
Bulls supporters (and visiting fans) have been subject to Super League pricing (that was a quote from the Bulls office when I questioned them) since relegation, including a ridiculous (but now thankfully defunct - hopefully) £2 hike for "game day" tickets.
All the best for 2017, but maybe the club needs to concentrate on balancing its books properly (players and coaching staff wages for instance) and make sure it prioritises payments to the likes of HMRC? Just a thought.
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| If folk aren't happy do what Liane did and talk to Marc Green, it's one of those situations where the Club will not comment publically but are quite prepared to talk to those with a concern on a one to one basis.
The third party outrage is looking silly as I seen haven't any one of the 45 so far come out castigating the Club, they may not be happy but I reckon if all of them talk to the Club they will understand their reasoning, though I'm sure every one on here should do anyway, the only moan is the way it's been done but that's nothing new in the Clubs dealing with supporters issues going back to 1996!
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| I was one of the 5year members. The last 2years were compromises, in that we could only get basic entry to the ground and had to pay extra for the benefits of 1863 membership But I thought that was reasonable.
I was informed last year that it was the final year of the deal, but in person, rather than over the phone.
I wonder what the numbers were for the 5 yr deal -100-200?
Should be a decent boost of income
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| Quote: Blotto "If folk aren't happy do what Liane did and talk to Marc Green, it's one of those situations where the Club will not comment publically but are quite prepared to talk to those with a concern on a one to one basis.
The third party outrage is looking silly as I seen haven't any one of the 45 so far come out castigating the Club, they may not be happy but I reckon if all of them talk to the Club they will understand their reasoning, though I'm sure every one on here should do anyway, the only moan is the way it's been done but that's nothing new in the Clubs dealing with supporters issues going back to 1996!'"
The club have already commented publicly on it. And clearly one of the 45 isn't happy as he wrote to LE to state his anger and his intent to walk away from the club after 40 years. Personally I think it is shoddy treatment of those fans but ultimately it is up to them how they feel/sort it with the club. My concern was the validity of these further deals of free season tickets. A year is a short time, especially as a Bulls supporter!
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| The bottom line is that those 5/10 year tickets became invalid at the first administration, the fact that successive owners kept them going when they didn't have to just exacerbates it, Marc Green wasn't getting any real value for them and goodwill doesn't pay the bills especially with the Bulls finances on the usual knife edge, the fact that he hasn't walked away despite no other buyers/investors should be welcomed not go OTT about a business decision!
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| Quote: Blotto "The bottom line is that those 5/10 year tickets became invalid at the first administration, the fact that successive owners kept them going when they didn't have to just exacerbates it, Marc Green wasn't getting any real value for them and goodwill doesn't pay the bills especially with the Bulls finances on the usual knife edge, the fact that he hasn't walked away despite no other buyers/investors should be welcomed not go OTT about a business decision!'"
Legally that might be the case but morally I don't agree. If we went into admin tomorrow, would you expect season tickets already bought for 2017 to be honoured by anyone who took the Bulls on? I think most people would and I don't see a huge amount of difference here.
And we are talking about 45 people here, not 450. One of those has seemingly walked away from the club because of it, you'd assume he possibly isn't alone even if he is in the minority. I just wonder who makes this daft decisions sometimes and the negative PR it creates.
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| Quote: HXSparky "This is so bonkers it's almost unbelievable! To shaft 45 supporters like this who were willing to commit to the club for 10 years (albeit at a good discount) is ludicrous.
It does beg the question whether next year's 5% (wow!) reduction and 2018 20%/free offers will be honoured? Great ideas, but they need to be backed up with an inherent trust factor that they'll not be cast aside if the going gets even tougher.
Bulls supporters (and visiting fans) have been subject to Super League pricing (that was a quote from the Bulls office when I questioned them) since relegation, including a ridiculous (but now thankfully defunct - hopefully) £2 hike for "game day" tickets.
All the best for 2017, but maybe the club needs to concentrate on balancing its books properly (players and coaching staff wages for instance) and make sure it prioritises payments to the likes of HMRC? Just a thought.'"
You are Martin Lewis and i claim my £5
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| For the sake of 45 people maybe the club should have taken the step to phone every one of them personally, and maybe counter the bad news with offer of a very discounted membership for 2017. maybe might have kept a few on board and brought a little extra in
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| Quote: thepimp007 "For the sake of 45 people maybe the club should have taken the step to phone every one of them personally, and maybe counter the bad news with offer of a very discounted membership for 2017. maybe might have kept a few on board and brought a little extra in'"
I'd agree, I think most supporters would have been reasonable about a compromise of some sort for the final 5 years they should have received.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "The club have already commented publicly on it. And clearly one of the 45 isn't happy as he wrote to LE to state his anger and his intent to walk away from the club after 40 years. Personally I think it is shoddy treatment of those fans but ultimately it is up to them how they feel/sort it with the club. My concern was the validity of these further deals of free season tickets. A year is a short time, especially as a Bulls supporter!'"
I would agree with that. It is up to each individual person, and I take my hat off to those who are still sticking with the club after it, as I honestly couldn't do it. Actually that's wrong, I couldn't stick with the current owner if it was done. I would walk away until said owner who made the decision to shaft me had left.
You're absolutely right when you say legally, the club have done nothing wrong. Morally though, they have. And your example of people buying season tickets now and not having them honoured if the club changed hands before the season starts is spot on.
I tend to agree with the club's stance in the last 2 years of you get admission to the ground but not the other membership benefits. I think that's ok and a small price gets your those benefits too. But what they're doing now is a disgrace.
I appreciate some people will defend every decision the club makes regardless of how good or bad it is. What I don't agree with is the suggestion by Blotto that those of us not directly affected (us "3rd parties"icon_wink.gif shouldn't have an opinion on it. Sure I won't take any action as I personally haven't been affected, it's down to those who have to deal with it how they see fit. But I won't let that stop me expressing the opinion that I feel they have been shat upon by a club that constantly wants people to be loyal to it.
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