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Quote: David Tasker "...give the coach full control of who to bring in player recruitment wise?'"

Sounded from Green's statement that the coach *does* have that control. What evidence do you have to the contrary?

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As I've said previously, Ferres has managed to stretch the salary cap exceptionally well in terms of the number of players on the books. But it's the quality of those players that's in question as I'm sure many of us would have preferred less quantity more quality over the last two years.

That being said, it does seem that Smith's reach in terms of quality players does seem greater than Ferres' so if be happy with Smith identifying the players he wants and Ferres getting them for the best price for the club

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Better than watching Aussies on you tube and signing them on that basis.

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It saves a lot of messing about, tbf, I mean [ieveryone[/i looks brilliant on youtube - it's just some of the videos are a bit on the short side....

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Funny bit in the statement regarding people scaremongering and then suddenly a certain tweet that it was probably partially aimed at by Gledhill is deleted.

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Quote: David Tasker "It's very sad to see a once great club on its uppers. One name on everyone's lips - Ferres - who is the alleged problem and has been the problem at Wakefield and Castleford. Sadly, from what I see on Bulls TV and hear on bcb radio isn't good enough as the current squad is not good enough by a long way. Perhaps, and I say perhaps, as a Bradford fan for many, many years, it is time to move people on up at Odsal who have survived past failed administrations - and give the coach full control of who to bring in player recruitment wise? Marc Green can back Ferres it is his club and money but this message doesn't sit well with a high percentage of the support base and you have to fear - can they go around again?'"

You're not the spokesman for the fans. We don't appear on our uppers, we have done 2 seasons in the C. with a full time squad, and are seemingly solvent. So what exactly do you mean?

You've appeared suddenly with a massive crusade against Ferres but you don't really know what role he plays. You have no clue who does what and whether well or badly, so your "perhaps" is just useless speculation.

I most strongly disagree though with this "not good enough by a long way". Let's just say its illogical. IMHO the recent additions left us mainly just short of some grizzled grunt in the pack, and if we can just rectify the prop deficit one way or another then we have all the elements in place to be highly competitive in this division, shame we only just got a decent coach and scrum half but you can't quibble they are there now.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "You're not the spokesman for the fans. We don't appear on our uppers, we have done 2 seasons in the C. with a full time squad, and are seemingly solvent. So what exactly do you mean?

You've appeared suddenly with a massive crusade against Ferres but you don't really know what role he plays. You have no clue who does what and whether well or badly, so your "perhaps" is just useless speculation.

I most strongly disagree though with this "not good enough by a long way". Let's just say its illogical. IMHO the recent additions left us mainly just short of some grizzled grunt in the pack, and if we can just rectify the prop deficit one way or another then we have all the elements in place to be highly competitive in this division, shame we only just got a decent coach and scrum half but you can't quibble they are there now.'"


I have read this forum for few years and don't like what is happening to the club I've supported since the 70s. I feel Ferres is the one to blame for the mess were in and I'm not alone. I dont condone any of the abuse aimed at him or his wife but he should take a long hard look at the shambles up there at Odsal and accept accountability for the mess we're in.

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Lots of people on Facebook blame Ferres but not one has any real inside information or any knowledge of what he does day to day. It looks to me like people are looking for a scapegoat.

I'm not saying he's whiter than white but I think it's wrong to single one man out. Ferres, Lowes, Green, Paul and the senior players all must take responsibility for where we are at the moment.

Fans need to engage brain before jumping on the Ferres witch hunt bandwagon.

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Quote: Bullseye "Lots of people on Facebook blame Ferres but not one has any real inside information or any knowledge of what he does day to day. It looks to me like people are looking for a scapegoat.

I'm not saying he's whiter than white but I think it's wrong to single one man out. Ferres, Lowes, Green, Paul and the senior players all must take responsibility for where we are at the moment.

Fans need to engage brain before jumping on the Ferres witch hunt bandwagon.'"


Problem is no one is actually accepting blame for the season we have had. Where is Robbie in all this? We've not heard from him for months? Yes, powerful statement from Green but the onus is on fans to turn up at the shield games and spend more money in greens bars etc...

Rightly or wrongly Ferres has been the man with the pen to authorise these players. I think supporters would be a bit more understanding if someone from the club actually admitted fault.

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Perhaps it's Lowes' fault, but Green, Ferres et al don't want to put the boot into someone who left for "family reasons"

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Quote: David Tasker "Problem is no one is actually accepting blame for the season we have had. Where is Robbie in all this? We've not heard from him for months? Yes, powerful statement from Green but the onus is on fans to turn up at the shield games and spend more money in greens bars etc...

Rightly or wrongly Ferres has been the man with the pen to authorise these players. I think supporters would be a bit more understanding if someone from the club actually admitted fault.'"

Robbie works on the 'business' side though, and I don't think is involved the the 'football' activities. I doubt that how they play is part of his remit.

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It feels hypocritical of people on here to slag someone off for calling out Ferres, when the same people have done their fair share of Ferres bashing this season.

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Quote: David Tasker "Rightly or wrongly Ferres has been the man with the pen to authorise these players.'"


If he is are you suggesting he has the power of veto over the coach? Green has said the coach has final say (as he should) – in which case Highlander may be nearer the mark when he says

Personally I think this fiasco reflects poorly on them all. Lowes for targeting players in a scattergun manner and then binning them off in the same way. Ferres for seemingly going along with this flawed policy and Green for allowing this to continue when it was obviously not working. You might forgive Green a bit since he’s relatively new to RL and had put Ferres in charge as a RL man so perhaps he and Lowes are more to blame. I heard lots of rumours about Ferres signing players that Lowes didn't want and vice versa. It sounds to me like the two didn't have the best working relationship. As we know Lowes doesn't react well to criticism (see relationship with journalists and fallout with Karl Harrison).

I do blame Green for the handling of the media and communication after the Fev defeat. The statement he put out was late and emotionally charged. It has annoyed a lot of loyal supporters. I can appreciate he’s human and sometimes you can’t help yourself and you need to sound off but this was all so needless.

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The reason people are jumping on Ferres is because we were told last year and this by Green what a great job Ferres had done in assembling the squad. We now seem to have had this slanted into what a great job Ferres has done of getting the player that Lowes wanted. And as we also keep being told, no-one knows what Ferres does day-to-day.

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Does anyone really know what he does? I've spoken to him. He seems to have a hand in just about everything at the club but I know nothing about how much authority he had over signings other than what Green has said publicly which was that the head coach has final say. I've heard all sorts of rumours but we all know that many rumour-mongers talk a load of poop.

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