I have to say, IMO that is a persuasive argument.

There are issues of quality, there's no doubt about that but quality manifests itself in different ways. It might be in technique or attitude or both. Potter himself admitted that the club needs a winning culture (implying that we have the opposite at the moment). It seems to me that when things start to go wrong the players go into their shells and then the performances gets worse. This is as much about attitude as well as ability.

Mental toughness is what we're lacking across the park. This side in comparison with previous sides are soft. In both performances versus Warrington we've taken a dry humping big style. In both performances this has been down to making crucial errors. I happen to think mistakes usually come from poor technique which can be down to lack of concentration and effort as well as plain old ability.

The fact that we showed we can make an 80min effort versus decent oppostion was showed versus Hudders. In the fortnight since it seems the mindset we had for that game went out of the window.

Wouldn't you?

With the unspeakable one on the field, we rose to 4th in the competition.

What happened from when he was no longer on the field?

Total wuss and toerag he might have been, but with him a fit and motivated I suggest we would have been in a far, far better place than that to which we have since gone.

Agreed, despite any personal feelings towards Ox, he was a class above any other scrum half I've seen at Odsal

That's just not the way it works though. Once or twice you get the odd shock but lets be realistic. This was always going to be a comfortable Wire victory.

Effort counts for a lot, but you can't replace talent and ability.

Plus with Orford we'd have been a solid playoff side last year and this.

Chris Caisley didnt sell either Burgess. Or any of the others.

He got them the deal that they wanted to sign at Souths didn't he?

Maybe so, but Peter Hood said yes, Russell, we'll sell you our prized player and best youngster in succesive seasons, as he has done sinse 2007.

It's a bit harder to keep a top player like that when the side isn't in the hunt for honours and a Hollywood superstar is whispering sweet nothings in his ear. Add to that his agent sorting out a great deal and what did you expect?

Sure it's disappointing. I think though the damage had been done to our prospects of keeping Sam long before Hood became chairman.

Losing George if anything is more disappointing since he never got in the 1st team.

Well i expect the chairman to not sell our best player.

thats funny, i expect our chairman to do what is best for the club. and if that means removing a large salary, so be it. if that means selling a player who has made it clear that he no longer wants to play for the club then so be it.

Rugby is not a game where you want to be forcing players to be stay when they dont. And bradford are not in a financial position to be watching prize assets leave for nothing, when they make it CLEAR they dont want to be there.

And selling our best players season after season certainley isnt best for the club.

On the subject of the result,

I dont like to say I told you so..but..

In another shock prediction, RTB maintains that the Sun will come up in the morning . . .