Does anybody else on here hope that the mini franchising round replaces Wakefield with Fev?

So should all the clubs who didn't get an A licence be involved in the franchising round? Just to make it fair?

Probably --but I am one who doesn't.. Despite some Trinity fans raising our hackles by misrepresenting the actual position I believe the majority of their fans (and fans of other clubs) do want us to stay. What Glover has done at Wakefield is remarkable and should point the way for many clubs . Three things stand out for me:
a 30% increase in crowds ,
improving the old stadium whilst still moving ahead with plans for a new ground
appointing Agar when most thought he had blown his chance at Hull
I'll be hoping that we win at Catalans and Wakey lose at Salford. But if that's not the case then I'll be hoping the Wildcats do well in the play--offs

Why would Omar Khan pay off the debts run up by others?

All this feeling sorry for the suppliers who have been shafted smells of people trying to take the moral high ground, in reality the suppliers traded with the Bulls as a business, anyone with an ounce of common sense would treat any sports team based buisness with caution and take out Trade Credit Insurance to cover for all enventualities. My company deals extensively with blue chip multi nationals and we take out cover on every contract.....

If we're talking of hope; I hope automatic one-up, one-down promotion and relegation between the leagues is introduced immediately - so that we can be rid of all this nonsense.

It does. And it rings especially hollow from supporters of clubs like Wakefield who have been there, done that. But you may well not have got an underwritten specific limit on the Bulls under a mainstream credit insurance policy, as their creditworthiness would probably have been too restricted.

The likes of Euler Hermes and Atradius (who I have dealt with through major policies for many years) will write individual limits on multinationals at will. And relatively cheaply too because the risks are generally low. You will find it far harder to get them to give you a limit on a business like the Bulls, especially if other clients of theirs have already grabbed and are sitting on what overall limit is available.

Not many small businesses are really in a position to take out credit insurance. The costs and the admin are too high, they often do not have a wide enough customer base to secure the standard "whole turnover" policy at reasonable cost, and it is devilishly difficult to stay within the parameters for not having to request a specific limit. The best many can hope for is a CPA policy, but then they so often blow their cover by not handing the debt over for collection when it falls outside the terms set out in the policy, or setting a limit when the available evidence suggests they should not have.

Don't think Wakey are involved in the mini franchising, isn't it just us and three Championship sides?

You what? I suggest anybody asked to provide services to any sports club should require cash up front.

no they shouldn't, but they will.

yes i am a Fax Fan, however i am not saying this in malice.

Your licence was up for debate again as soon as you entered admin. Now as the new Co you cant (in my opinion) rely on past attendances/honours to keep you in the top league.

all you put forward in your 'new' bid is speculative (like ours was last time around)

People in this thread have commented on the Bulls having the 'fanbase' and Fax simply "don't"

i put this question forward to you all. what would the attendances be at Odsal next season if you were downed to the Championship? all paying normal Championship prices (roughly £160 for a season ticket)

i realise this is SPECULATIVE but unfortunatly this is all we all have to go on.

Re the comments above that say suppliers should have insurance. That sounds like what a little scrote of a car thief said when asked how the car owner feels. "What's he worried about he's insured"

Do you live in the real world?

Have you tried asking a much bigger business for cash up front?

Likely response #1: "Well there are plenty more where you came from if you won't supply on credit and on our terms."

Likley response #2: "Fekk off you time-wasting ässhole."

You might as well advise any small business never to deal with any sports club.

To be honest in the current climate if you were giving objective advice to a small business you would tell them to be careful trading with a sports clubs - especially if they were in the business of hosting web sites!

Indeed you would. ATEOTD its down to the commercial risk a small business is prepared to take. All too often it is like a tragic game of pass the parcel - you just hope and pray its not you left holding it when the music stops and it goes off...

Same as why, for example, I did not take up the offer of one of the multi-year season tickets.

And did you miss a couple of words out of the second part of your post?