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Bulldoze both Odsal and VP and build a custom-made stadium for both sides to share. It is the only sensible option for both sides and has been for some time IMO.

If it is good enough for Hull, Wigan, Huddersfield etc in RL and Saracens/Watford and London Irish/Reading in RU then it is good enough for us.

Sadly this will never happen though.

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Quote: mystic eddie "Bulldoze both Odsal and VP and build a custom-made stadium for both sides to share. It is the only sensible option for both sides and has been for some time IMO.

If it is good enough for Hull, Wigan, Huddersfield etc in RL and Saracens/Watford and London Irish/Reading in RU then it is good enough for us.

Sadly this will never happen though.'"


Wouldn't say this is a sensible option for City by any means, nor would I want it to happen. The fans have a strong attachment to VP and the club are finally making use of the stadium's capacity with the cheaper season tickets (sold ~17500 this season).

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Us playing at VP would require the RFL deciding that their Odsal lease wasn't so iconic after all.

I'd happily watch us play there now. Odsal is a millstone. Horsfall probably isn't up to standard but I've not been for years.

I think this is the least of our worries tho!

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So do I Bullseye.

If the outcome is League 1 or lower, we'll be out of Odsal whatever imo - there's just no way it woud be viable. Even in the Championship, if we're left with no hope of achieveving anything [12 point dedeuction, for instance] then support would crumble and the same applies. We'd be lucky to see the season out if we're left to pay the cost of the upkeep and lease of Odsal in those circumstances.

I'm not sure what the RFL will have to do with where we play to be honest, Bullseye. If it's a new club the lease is gone totally anyway, along with everything else. Even if the old business survives, Whatever the cost of any escape clauses it might be better to just go and leave the RFL with it. Why do I think the RFL wouldn't have had the nous to put any penalties in for leaving early?

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I don't really see how the ground question is 'the least of our worries'

On the contrary, I think its become clear that the ground issue is at the very heart of the unsustainable nature of the Bulls. In fact it is one of the greatest of our worries! As people have said, Odsal is 'a millstone' that surely no sensible new owner is going to want to take on under the current RFL-led terms.

Of course, there isn't an obvious alternative....

Part of the reason for setting up the poll was to demonstrate that its a lot easier to say 'we need to leave Odsal' than it is to come up with a realistic alternative.

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If you live in a houseboat and it sinks then you have two problems, the least of those is that you now have nowhere to live - the major problem is keping yourself afloat.

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Quote: Bulliac "If you live in a houseboat and it sinks then you have two problems, the least of those is that you now have nowhere to live - the major problem is keping yourself afloat.'"
... and wet socks. That's not good.

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I think that next year we should play in Super League.

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Quote: mystic eddie "Bulldoze both Odsal and VP and build a custom-made stadium for both sides to share. It is the only sensible option for both sides and has been for some time IMO.

If it is good enough for Hull, Wigan, Huddersfield etc in RL and Saracens/Watford and London Irish/Reading in RU then it is good enough for us.

Sadly this will never happen though.'"

This is the only proper way & I agree.

A stadium fit for purpose (of both Clubs) with a capacity circa 20k+ & all the corporate ability that comes with modern stadia would benefit both clubs immensely.

Of course the question would be where to find 30>40 £M ???

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If only the one opportunity for it that will ever exist had not been vetoed by Stephen Byers 15+ years ago.

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "This is the only proper way & I agree.

A stadium fit for purpose (of both Clubs) with a capacity circa 20k+ & all the corporate ability that comes with modern stadia would benefit both clubs immensely.

Of course the question would be where to find 30>40 £M ???'"


Look at burnt out clubs like Bolton Wanderers and indeed, Ste, our own Leythe. The Reebok/Makron is a fantastic place to watch football (if Barca or Real Madrid are playing there) not a bad seat in the house (barring ones close to the die hard and therefore not soon enough oik element). LSV the same though on a smaller scale. Retail parks, college (in case of LSV), pubs, hospitality suites. But it is only do-able if the local council / MPs are on board and speaking open-mindedly to corporate investors. Bradford is a city with bigger concerns than those of, albeit large towns, but surely a unifying focal point for the whole community would be an asset.

Back in my day, I think there was a business studies centre up in Manningham somewhere. Start a project there. Practical lectures, seminars and coursework. Who knows.

Ps Bolton seem to be on their uppers again, another reason why Bongser is feeling for the Bulls fans.

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I'm a stuck record but, with no disrespect to the horror of the disaster, we will never get city out of that macabre shrine so any notion of ground share can be forgotten.

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Quote: Pumpetypump "I'm a stuck record but, with no disrespect to the horror of the disaster, we will never get city out of that macabre shrine so any notion of ground share can be forgotten.'"

And whilst they are getting the crowds they are and are reasonably successful I couldn't disagree with them. It would be the same if the boot was on the other foot.

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Whilst I have empathy for your situation, and a lot of crap has been spouted on our forum by certain bulls fans, it will be a shame if you do go to the wall. 'Fax have been in your situation.
As you know we ground share , and it has caused no end of ill feeling from some FCHT fans, it is not even their ground but owned by the council.
Whatever happens keep your own ground and the history you have there. After we moved every thing seems to have gone backwards with the exception of a minor blip mid nineties.

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Quote: the fax in asia "Whilst I have empathy for your situation, and a lot of crap has been spouted on our forum by certain bulls fans, it will be a shame if you do go to the wall. 'Fax have been in your situation.
As you know we ground share , and it has caused no end of ill feeling from some FCHT fans, it is not even their ground but owned by the council.
Whatever happens keep your own ground and the history you have there. After we moved every thing seems to have gone backwards with the exception of a minor blip mid nineties.'"

Alternatively, this could be the time to be honest and admit that tradition and good memories are not a good enough reason to stay at a completely fan un-friendly stadium.

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