The naming of estates has a lot to answer for, in as much as today, for many people, they have taken over the names of the districts. The Buttershaw estate sprawls, as you say, from Wibsey to Bank Top and nearly even (but not quite) into Buttershaw itself. It did, and I guess still does, have a bit of a reputation though, hence the good lady's wish to 'move' herself into Wibsey. The top end of Woodside estate is certainly in Buttershaw (I used to live there) though the bottom isn't, being partially in Royds Hall and even Low Moor at the very bottom.

I personally live in Tyersal. That is the district of Tyersal in Bradford, not the Tyersal estate which isn't in Tyersal (though it does butt up to a corner of it) , or despite the BD4 postcode even in Bradford, but wholly in Pudsey. Maybe we have to accept that these things are somewhat dynamic?

Clarkson is one of those people isn't he?

I mean, I'm not normally one of those people to [ireally[/i dislike someone I've never met, but Clarkson just rubs me up the wrong way with everything he says and everything he does. Normally I go the extra mile to find those 'saving graces' that people have and I can usually find something to make me feel they're not [iall[/i bad, even Hitler liked dogs, didn't he? but Clarkson, no, there's nothing there, no empathy or feeling for a fellow human being, just nothing but an intense dislike.

He's not unique though. Thatcher rubs me up the same way and for many of the same reasons; the arrogance, self interest, the bending of facts to support the conclusion, the belief that she was right and the inability to see any any other point of view. I'm going to lie down in a darkened room..........

That's where I work.
You mean Upper Clayton?

Buttershaw, behind the Cap and Bell pub.

I only judge people by their postcode. I find it fairer.

Now I like Meryl Streep, but I find myself completely unable to even look at a picture of her as Thatcher. I find it more off-putting than pictures of the senile old bag herself.

Too much information

Indeed. You stinking festering pile-of-poo banker-loving grouse-shooting merc-driving mansion-owning Betty's-frequenting capitalist pig!

I lived in bradford for 4 years, its not perfect, but i think its a great city and it will always be my second home.

Ilkley is not 'street', it's 'boulevard'.

It does also work the other way.....

When on holiday in Marmaris (Turkey) there was a huge curry house with a sign outside saying "Famous chef from Bradford".

One evening, me and the Mrs decided to give the curry house a go. We asked if the owner was around and one of the waiters fetched for him. After chatting to him it turns out he was actually from Dewsbury but thought the lure of a 'Bradford' chef would bring in larger amounts of customers!

To be fair, it was a good curry!!

Indeed.

I was just thinking that myself this morning, when I turned right off Church Street to avoid the traffic lights at the "Crescent" crossroads with Brook Street, then drove along West Street before turning right into Brook Street. I presume you have had your butler take this issue of inappropriate street names up with your MP?

Get down wiv da kids, grandad. When we say 'street' we don't mean street, we mean [i'street'.[/i Though I do admit to liking [i'crescent'[/i, I might use that in the 'hood from now on. Innit.

All this talk of 'Crescents' and Boulevards' suggests someone is trying to come on a teensy bit 'Hawwowghahte' (or Arragit, as most of my rellies would no doubt call it, but I'm sure it has more aitches than that ).