I think you've explained why there's been no Bulls comment there.

Anyone talking up the Odsal scheme needs to do it without sounding partisan like the City fans are.

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... d_players/ Bulls football manager Stuart Duffy said: “These boys are champing at the bit and it’s great news that they’ll get the benefit of the Odsal atmosphere in their first season. “It will be confirmed next week that we’re at Odsal for the whole of the season and that means the new lads can sample our unique game-day experience when they don their shirts in February.”

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... d_players/ Bulls football manager Stuart Duffy said: “These boys are champing at the bit and it’s great news that they’ll get the benefit of the Odsal atmosphere in their first season. “It will be confirmed next week that we’re at Odsal for the whole of the season and that means the new lads can sample our unique game-day experience when they don their shirts in February.”

It's not fallen through yet. But it will never happen by 2012.

Does this mean we're on shaky ground re our super league franchise?

No.

Well that's good news!

I think the important phrase is whole of next season, if it had fallen through think they would say foreseeable future. dont think they could have realistically expected work to start before end of 2010 season without saying something in season ticket literature.
we havent had a warnig about stadium unlike 5 other clubs so it wont affect our franchise although it may lose us a point or two depending how they award points this time.

I agree with that but we a seem to be in a bit of a bind with how the stadium development should be presented.

I had a discussion with a few City fans over the weekend and, naturally enough, the subject of grounds came up. Now I played a pretty straight bat regarding the OSV, how it`s not really about a stadium for the Bulls but whilst that is obviously part of it, the bulk of finance and work was to be spent on community sports facilities etc etc.

The seven or eight fans I spoke to didn`t have any ingrained hostility to going to Odsal per se, on no; their biggest problem with going there was that the stadium at Odsal would only be an 18,000 seater, and that, in their eyes made it unrealistic, not forward looking enough (I tend to agree, btw). So it would seem that one (small?) rump of City fans think that more should be spent on Odsal.

There really are so many differing points of view over this development it`s impossible to get a handle on it sometimes.

Thats for certain, and so many vested interests., both emotional and financial.
Suspect that in the long term the preference of both sets of fans will come a reluctant second to commercial pressures.

Sorry if its posted elsewhere but I couldn't see it;

rlCity supporters think VP would be better than OSV shockerrl


[i"The Trust believe it will be easier – and much cheaper – to shift the Bulls into Valley Parade instead of housing both clubs at a new multi-million pound complex."

"As things stand, City supporters cannot see that it makes much sense to move to Odsal. Ground-sharing at Valley Parade is likely to prove much easier and cheaper to accomplish."

"But ground-sharing at Valley Parade is not going to work without the support of Bulls’ fans and ground-sharing at Odsal won’t work without the support of City fans. "[/i

Unsurprisingly the city supporters trust think that VP makes more sence then Odsal. Maybe this is just the thing that our fledgling supporters group could lend a voice to?

Otherwise its hard to see where Bulls fans views might be accounted for other than individual representations to the clubs/council/whoever.

The bit about groundsharing will only work if both sets of fans are behind it is true to an extent, and is why I can't see it working. I dont think there is the mood for that sort of change amoungst enough of the fans on either side.

It's something the supporters trust have decided to stay away from (for now anyway).

I think it is too much of a political hot potato for us to be airing "the bulls view" on, especially without knowing all the facts.

Opinion is / was (at the last meeting) that the trust didn't want to have a public voice on anything that would conflict with the clubs official line.

Sounds like the best strategy.

And I think thats a fair stance, the only problem is if the people in charge of what to do with OSV start to listen to the fans and the only organised fans are the city fans then we might lose out.

If momentum swung behind a move away from Odsal (and I know there is nothing yet to suggest this is the case) I would hope any organised fans group would put forward a case for Odsal on our behalf or at least offer a view.

I'm sure it would be something we'd sound out with the club in private. I think it's fair to say the majority of fans would pick their first choice "home" as Odsal.

It maybe (and I'm not suggesting it is at the minute) that we have no alternative but to move to VP down the line.