The people that do go will realise that we are definatley NOT improving. We are getting worse as weeks go by.

No. It's actually not. If RL were all about results, I'd have stopped watching it decades ago. In the case of rugby league, you couldn't be more wrong. You'd be happy to watch a team win 20 on the trot 2-0?


Wow, controversial, or what? What, are there people somewhere who would say our results "are" good enough?

Where do you get these gems from?

I kind of disagree with the 'performance' argument and I very much disagree with the Barrie McDermottism of rugby league being a performance based sport. Whilst it is important to perform well on a consistent basis, in my opinion it is a whole lot more important to get the correct result. For myself, results matter far more than performances

Yes and I bet Peter Hood would be too.

I feel sorry for the fans having to watch this lot every week. The only person that I don't feel sorry for is someone I know who has actually been quite awful to me just because I follow Leeds. - get a life would you? McNamara has to go now that is final. It appears that the team just don't have any spirit left in them now. A new coach whoever that would be needs to restore some spirit, pride in the club etc. Those heady days of SL champs seem a distant memory now. Getting rid of him now gives you a chance to turn the season around- wait and it will prolong the agony.

Er..hardly karma for us though?

That was a big call that, that handed Cas posession in our half and they ultimately scored from it. Instead of a penalty to us, its six points to them. Shocker.

He wasn't in touch. But was tackled anyway so ultimately it didn't matter.

You are talking complete utter and complete bollox.

There was huge pride and spirit on show yesterday.

What was missing was some composure near the end.

That has sod all to do with the coach and everything to do with the players on the park.

I agree with you Adeybull ... although unfortunately while I disagree with the points over performance argument from a personal point of view ... the coach's job security IS surely related to results and the Bulls performances may be OK but ultimately not getting the right result (week in week out!) has to have consequences

Ultimately, yes. Other than the Wigan debacle, we seem to be losing (or even winning...) by tiny margins. A slight shift one way on those margins and we'd be celebrating sitting near the top of the table now. But we are not, and obviously if things do not improve someone will ultimately have to be held accountable.

Someone said a while back that we seemed to have a competition with two "good" teams, ten "mediocre" teams and two "bad" teams (or similar).

That's the usual negativity talking, of course. But the underlying point he made needs further examination cos he's only a bit wrong.

IMO we currently have:

1. Two very good teams, who its hard to see past for honours.
2. Ten, probably eleven good teams, all of whom now - with the increased standards overall, salary cap and general levelling out of standards, can beat each other on the day and where its hard to rank.
3. One seemingly poor team.

We could have been near the top of group 2 not near the bottom with relatively modest performance improvements, so there must remain hope for the rest of the season.

The competition has become much more like the NRL now in terms of difference between top and bottom. Remember back to 1997, when we got beat by Auckland and the press had a field day as they were the bottom club in the NRL and we were top in SL? What the press was missing was that the gap in ability and performance between top and bottom in the NRL was far far narrower than in SL at the time.

I suggest many people are now making the same mistake looking within the SL competition?

It is on report because he had a head injury, same as baileys last week and burrows.

There was nothing wrong with the tackle, Deacs was creamed.

I guess we will see won't we.