Well we can only guess. 10 years is a long time living away from friends and family even if he does have a GF etc over in Oz. Admittedly he'll no doubt be over when the season ends.

It should be announced by Wednesday.

Souths are gunna have an amazing pack next year then with Asotasi, Burgess, Taylor, Luke, Crocker, and Pettybourne. That Dave Taylor has looked world class the last few weeks.

The other good thing about this is that to free up some money and a place in the pack Souths have 'released' Fa'alogo. So we get to see a World Cup winning back rower in the UK.

At the end of the day they were all sold before their contracts were up to make a quick dollar. Selling our 4 best players in four consecutive seasons puts us firmly in the catagory of a selling club. It's black and white.

To me, a selling club is a club who sells its top assets who want to be here. A selling club to me, isn't a club that sells its players because they want to leave.

You have a poor argument this time. If someone wants to go, let them go rather than keeping against their will.

So you think all should have been kept to their contracts even though they all made it perfectly clear they wanted to leave?

I cant believe having players at the club that want to be elsewhere is a good thing.

To be fair Fielden said he wanted out before Noble even went to Wigan, Vianikolo and Hape had a desire to play union and Burgess obviously wants to go to Oz. So we are not a selling club, if someone wants out then you might aswell get good money for them, rather than lose them for nothing. I just hope we have something up our sleeve, becuase we need a marque signing.

I think selling a player that is held to a contract makes you a selling club.

Sell ya best players and you're a selling club. It's that simple.

Can you guys see my siggy?

I think on this issue you are on a bit shaky ground, tbh.

If a player wants out for more money or to pursue an ambition or whatever, even if the player is being reasonable about it and not taking his bat home, then yes you CAN hold him to his contract. And if said player takes his bat home, then yes as you argued elsewhere you CAN play him in the reserves to teach him a lesson (except of course there are no reserves next year...) And yes, if it makes you feel good to know you have not let the player get his own way then you CAN have a big chunk of salary cap sat in the stand or carrying the water on.

Yes, you CAN do that. But why would you want to?

Alternatively, you recognise the inevitability of the situation - same as Leeds did with Harris when he went to Cardiff, and get the best you can for the player and free up the cap for someone who is more keen to be here. And, funnily enough, once it gets sorted then the player's performances usually improve in the games he has left.

I have it on very good authority that one at least of the players on your list did indeed take his bat home over money big time at one point.

I also think it needs to be recognised that clubs who historically have been seen as selling clubs did it either to stay alive or to cash in a big asset to further the club's development. The latter like we did with Newlove. I guess the history books will record why we sold Fielden.

Not at all, Solid is the ground that I am on.

Adey, it doesn't matter what yours or anybody elses defination of a selling club is, the defination of selling as I'm sure you well know is to transfer goods for money and seen as though that is what we have done, with each of our best assests for each of the past 3 seasons, and soon to be fourth and we are a rugby club that indeed makes us a selling club. It can't be argued against sufficiently to disprove.

So just accept the fact that Peter Hood has gone against his words, sold his best players and we are now indeed a selling club.

How can any player who obviously does not want to play for us and makes that clear to the coach and the board be considered to be an asset?

Maybe we should be worrying about WHY they want to leave rather than whether or not we are a "selling club"?