Oh aye, with the Daily Wail calling everyone who disagrees a traitor and, no doubt, the working class Tories saying, "they're only doing it for our own good".

rlNew BBC Drama - Gunpowderrl

So, BBC have finished shooting a new drama regarding the Gunpowder plot. Coincidence?

Explain to me where you get this from. The European Court of Auditors has audited the EU’s accounts annually since 1994.

Since when has any Brexit voter needed any kind of proof of anything. Just believe the lies they are peddled by the Daily Rags.

Have any of them questioned the 350 million yet? Have any of them questioned the fact that it is going to cost us hundreds of millions even to start the exit?

No, let's just carry on believing it's going to be best for the country. Without anyone actually ever saying how.

If you say so. Any details about the first twenty odd years ?

I doubt Nigel has worked in the coal industry for 41 years or voted Labour since he was allowed to vote .

This Nigel if thats what you want to call me worked in the coal industry for 41 years and voted Labour from the time he could vote. I hope I'm allowed an opinion even if my name was Nigel .

I don't really understand your response but it's not about what I say, it's about certifiable fact. If you want to read any of the audit reports they are all publicly available. This is sadly another example of a lie spread by UKIP which the working man took at face value and most will never spend the 2 minutes of time it would take to check.

Quote: Lilfatman "I'm a silvertop and when I bugger off I hope we will have really left that corrupt organisation called EU. How we can still be in something that has'nt been audited for years I'll never understand. I'm old enough to remember how we had to destroy umpteen orchards to be allowed in and don't start me on the destroyed Fishing industry. Being forty you would'nt know how we managed before, and don't worry about trade the EU lorries will still be arriving containing about 80% more than they take back and quite possibly be delivering a few illegals.'" Not true. https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditor ... eu-budget/

Quote: Lilfatman "I'm a silvertop and when I bugger off I hope we will have really left that corrupt organisation called EU. How we can still be in something that has'nt been audited for years I'll never understand. I'm old enough to remember how we had to destroy umpteen orchards to be allowed in and don't start me on the destroyed Fishing industry. Being forty you would'nt know how we managed before, and don't worry about trade the EU lorries will still be arriving containing about 80% more than they take back and quite possibly be delivering a few illegals.'" Not true. https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditor ... eu-budget/

I also grew up in the Doncaster coalfields. I wore my working class credentials & Yorkshireness proudly & vocally. Since the last election & Brexit I am ashamed of both.

The coal industry is a microcosm of the Tory attitude to society. It was cycnically destroyed, not because of economics or climate concerns, but because it was a highly unionised public owned body, symbolic of post-WW2 socialism.

That's the trouble with modern day communication - You cant use it as toilet paper

Majority of comments on thread - anti May - the majority of votes pro - think we can all see now that this will be reflected in the actual poll next month as well.

For me the most nauseating part of this whole disaster is Brexiters wrapping themselves in the Union Jack and distorted images of the golden past, when in fact their main driver is to totally emasculate the democratic structure of the country and hand it on a plate to a tiny number of global corporations who of course have everyone's best interests at heart?

That is clearly not the case. I'm sure very few people's main driver is to hand power to global corporations.

The poll results on this thread are interesting and do seem to reflect wider society where a left leaning minority are more vocal on social media, whilst a silent majority tend to vote right.

For me, the left have to find a way of engaging those who vote right that doesn't tell them they are racist, stupid, xenophobic etc. And they need to recognise the value of strong leadership. People like to follow a strong leader. Even if it's not quite down the path they'd like.

I don't like strong 'leaders' and never have. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mugabe, Pinochet the list is endless, were all strong leaders. I was going to throw Thatcher in there too, but I guess that might be thought a teensy bit over the top.

The best 'Leaders' recognise the need to compromise and to put their own party, class or personal interests aside when deciding what is best for the country as a whole. We never ever get one like that, so I dislike 'leaders'. They don't lead me.

I'll wager at some point in your life you have followed a strong leader. At work or playing sport.
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The Hitler example is interesting because his aggression was made worse by the fact that Britain had a weak leader in Chamberlian