Absolutely. People can pretend all they like, but if you get on with your boss and respect him/her, you'll go that extra mile and work harder for him/her. If you don't like them, you won't give two turds.

What's he doing now? Can you have a word with him to contact Green please.

I'd fancy him doing a job!!

Definitely rings a bell with me. I’ve had the pleasure of the company of all the Bulls/Northern coaches since Fox. They all come over as decent men but for me it’s no coincidence that the successful ones (Fox, Smith, Elliott, Noble) were great communicators and had that extra something than made you feel inspired. Fox was the best for that. If I’d been a player I’d have run through brick walls for him.

The last fella we had in charge that came anywhere near was Mick Potter. Unfortunately McNamara, Cummins and Lowes don’t have that same aura.

I heard an interview with Chris Chester last week who said he'd tried to create an environment at Wakefield where the players looked forward to turning up to training. I think the word he used was "fun" which sounds a bit primary school but it's clear that the new techniques are working wonders. It's amazing how a change in coach can energise and completely alter attitudes and application which leads directly to results on the field.

In his book "The Magic of Teamwork," (which inspired thinking in the early days of the Bulls) Vice President of Orlando Magic Pat Williams says the six qualities that effective leaders must possess are Vision, Communication Skills, People Skills, Character, Competence and Boldness. How many of those apply to Lowes?

How many of us have just mentally ticked those of for the good managers we've had?

Very accurate

Wouldn't you argue Purtel is this character for us?

With Sidlow injured we've lost our pack leader. In the sub standard performances early on this season he was the one that broke the line and got us on the front foot. Without him the pack is rudderless. In the backs Gaskell is well out of form and Mullaney has gone leaving us with nobody who can create much.

I think Purtell is a solid character but I think he's probably captain purely down to his longevity with the club and the fact that he's played at a high level in the past.

Just looked down the squad and apart from Purtell there isn't really anyone....

Lots of talent and potential - but no other natural leader......never looked at it like this before.

I think you need 2 or 3 in any team to be successful - interesting

Think Sidlow is that character. No coincidence since he's been out that we've hit this slump. Not just what he does on the field in terms of attack and defence. But he definitely makes sure others do their job and tells them when they're not.

We gradually lost leaders in the years 2006-14 and it's showed in performances.

Since we got relegated nobody has really stepped up into that role either apart from Sidlow. We do need a couple of old heads.

I heard Noble speak in a managers thing in a public sector meeting last year. He ticks most of the things on that list. I would offer him anything he wanted at the club if it meant he was involved in squad training

Same here. But would he want the job? If I were him I'd want certain assurances.

I've thought this ever since we've come down - Diskin probably the last real player we had who had "been there and done it". It's also why I wasn't that adverse to the Mathers signing. (Not to open up the whole debate again about the pros/cons of that so far, but I would say there are signs that the rugby "brain" of Mathers is still there, even if it's clear his body is way off the pace). Certainly need a few old war horses - although we seem to end up with a load of cart horses instead.