The Bulls will remain in SL as to give the place to another club would not be a great thing to do as that club would be a year behind of where they should be.The RFL wont dare kick the Bulls out with the fan base they have though that might change.
The new owner has said he wants to make Odsal the Wembley of the north and that will cost a lot of money so the playing side will suffer hes said as much as that in the T&A.There wont be cheap season tickets and people have to cut the cloth so inevitable that some fans wont be going and that would happen at any club.

Oh well that's ok then. So administration is ok at the beginning of the season, just not at the end.

Well of course the Bulls will stay in SL. The new owner is the right person to "Curry" favour with the RFL!

Take aways all round!

Although Omar did baulk at the small print saying Nigel Woods would be entitled to free all you can eat buffets at his restaurants!

On your first point who's to say that the Bulls will not be whipping boys for next 3 years as they will need to budget accordingly and with some Sky money spent already they will struggle to match this seasons contracts for next year and can see a lot of players going and the one's coming in not as good.

I think the outcome will be that the Bulls will remain in SL.

I would choose to either:-

1.Have a secret ballot of all existing Super League club chairmen(women to be PC)/CEO - (a secret ballot means that people vote freely and do not feel under undue pressure to be seen to vote a certain way, or worry of the consequences on the future of their own club).

2. A mini franchise round (which we appear to be having). The major difference here as opposed to Wakefield and Crusader's situation last year is that there is such a small time frame to put an application together. The new OK owners have very little time to get to grips with franchise requirements and submit a realistic bid. In the same way there is little time for any selected Championship clubs to pull together an application. Further, it would be difficult for a Championship club to pull together a competitive squad for next year, this close to the end of the season. Admittedly we can speculate how many of the Bulls players have agreed terms elsewhere for next year, however the nucleaus of the squad is there and puts them in a better position.

Irrespective of all this "can't manage without the Bulls"/"crowd pulling power" etc talk let's just stick to the basics.

My preferences are listed above and the RFL seems to have adopted the mini franchise process. Time is limited which is a hinderance but at least there is some form of assessment. Maybe do away with grades A, B and C which is controversial and just say who is strongest out of the applicants.

Irrespective, I really do hope that OK Bulls seek to honour many of the legacy creditors. The fans have suffered enough this season as have many of the release staff. The creditors are the victims that many have not talked about and they are probably some of the most innocent in all of this.

Does anybody else on here hope that the mini franchising round replaces Wakefield with Fev?

So should all the clubs who didn't get an A licence be involved in the franchising round? Just to make it fair?

Probably --but I am one who doesn't.. Despite some Trinity fans raising our hackles by misrepresenting the actual position I believe the majority of their fans (and fans of other clubs) do want us to stay. What Glover has done at Wakefield is remarkable and should point the way for many clubs . Three things stand out for me:
a 30% increase in crowds ,
improving the old stadium whilst still moving ahead with plans for a new ground
appointing Agar when most thought he had blown his chance at Hull
I'll be hoping that we win at Catalans and Wakey lose at Salford. But if that's not the case then I'll be hoping the Wildcats do well in the play--offs

Why would Omar Khan pay off the debts run up by others?

All this feeling sorry for the suppliers who have been shafted smells of people trying to take the moral high ground, in reality the suppliers traded with the Bulls as a business, anyone with an ounce of common sense would treat any sports team based buisness with caution and take out Trade Credit Insurance to cover for all enventualities. My company deals extensively with blue chip multi nationals and we take out cover on every contract.....

If we're talking of hope; I hope automatic one-up, one-down promotion and relegation between the leagues is introduced immediately - so that we can be rid of all this nonsense.

It does. And it rings especially hollow from supporters of clubs like Wakefield who have been there, done that. But you may well not have got an underwritten specific limit on the Bulls under a mainstream credit insurance policy, as their creditworthiness would probably have been too restricted.

The likes of Euler Hermes and Atradius (who I have dealt with through major policies for many years) will write individual limits on multinationals at will. And relatively cheaply too because the risks are generally low. You will find it far harder to get them to give you a limit on a business like the Bulls, especially if other clients of theirs have already grabbed and are sitting on what overall limit is available.

Not many small businesses are really in a position to take out credit insurance. The costs and the admin are too high, they often do not have a wide enough customer base to secure the standard "whole turnover" policy at reasonable cost, and it is devilishly difficult to stay within the parameters for not having to request a specific limit. The best many can hope for is a CPA policy, but then they so often blow their cover by not handing the debt over for collection when it falls outside the terms set out in the policy, or setting a limit when the available evidence suggests they should not have.

Don't think Wakey are involved in the mini franchising, isn't it just us and three Championship sides?

You what? I suggest anybody asked to provide services to any sports club should require cash up front.

no they shouldn't, but they will.

yes i am a Fax Fan, however i am not saying this in malice.

Your licence was up for debate again as soon as you entered admin. Now as the new Co you cant (in my opinion) rely on past attendances/honours to keep you in the top league.

all you put forward in your 'new' bid is speculative (like ours was last time around)

People in this thread have commented on the Bulls having the 'fanbase' and Fax simply "don't"

i put this question forward to you all. what would the attendances be at Odsal next season if you were downed to the Championship? all paying normal Championship prices (roughly £160 for a season ticket)

i realise this is SPECULATIVE but unfortunatly this is all we all have to go on.