I like Wakey v Cas slagging matches in threads I really do, but perhaps on a Bradford forum in a thread about Bradford we could give it a rest? Ta

Cas are still in front in the stadium marathon. However, they are now crawling with lead feet whereas Wakefield are now lacing up their new trainers ready for the sprint.

Unbelievable that The RL have final say choose what the clubs vote. It should be up to the clubs and their decision is final

If Bulls exit admin correctly they will remain in SL just like other cubs who have been in admin have done.

If they are liquidated and form a newco, the just like Rangers in Scotland all history of that club has gone and the new club has to start again.

Rangers have been voted out of the of the Scottish premier league by a vote of 10 - 2. one of those 2 clubs being rangers themselves and the other refusing to vote.

Its daft to even start assuming who the 5 RL clubs maybe because all will have their own reasons. Losing Rangers from the SPL could kill some teams but they still voted against. Celtic and Rangers are one of the biggest rivalries in the world but Celtic still voted against.

The rest of the Scottish football league are now going to decide which Division rangers will start in next season the 1st or the 3rd with the 3rd looking most likely.

The RL wont do themselves any favours if they go against the vote of the clubs, but as usual they'll probably do what they like.

In my opinion if Bradford are liquidated and form a Newco they should be demoted. Not because I think Fev should replace them but because its wrong to over spend be managed badly and get away with it.

I have read in this thread that fax made 20k profit , not sure if the OP had gotten mixed up but I know for certain Featherstone have made 20K profit. In a league where most teams bring between 50-100 away fans, its a fantastic achievement. Why should teams like Fev and Fax struggle to make a profit and develop youngsters while super league clubs spend money they haven't got buying crap aussies.

I'm curious about the difference then between liquidation and administration because both represent exactly that.

Doesn't it depend on what Sky vote?

Basically

When in administration an administrator is appointed to run the club until a buyer / further investment can be found or until the club can no longer operate. If its the latter then it will be liquidated and cease to exist.

Obviously if a buyer is found and they can agree a deal with all the creditors the Bull would exit admin still as Bradford Bulls. if the are liquidated then Bradford bulls in its present form would no longer exist and a brand new company would need to be formed.

I understand the difference between them. My point is that if demotion to a lower league is punishment for failure then why not do it for admin? Liquidation is admin plus a failure to attract a buyer within the necessary timescale. The club has already failed if it's got to the point of admin.

because the RL has already set that president by not demoting other teams who have entered admin, but choosing to dock points.

also if a team is liquidated then the new company is no longer that original team. therefor they should apply to join the league like any other new team would have to do

Well durgh!!

So was there club votes to see if Wakefield and Celtic were allowed to remain in SL?

We weren't liquidated. We went into admin and were bought when in admin. We received the penalty for going into admin (which I note you haven't received yet) but the club never ceased to exist. A new owner simply took over from the old owner, sorted out by the administrator. In between, he lowered the outgoings of the club by dispensing of staff and some expensive players. You are hanging onto all of your players. If you liquidate, you cease to exist, and so I presume the clubs will decide whether to admit your fresh application for a new club.

For me, the difference is a bit technical and I would vote to keep you in.

(edited to make sense. note to self: don't post when drunk).

I think Cru for sure.

Not so. After the cru and wakey embarrassments RFL/SL changed the rules and all team signed up to it......punishment is 'unlimited'.

Quote: Slugger McBatt "We weren't liquidated. We went into admin and were bought when in admin. We received the penalty for going into admin (which I note you haven't received yet) but the club never seemed to exist. A new owner simply took over from the old owner, sorted out by the administrator. In between, he lowered the outgoings of the club by dispensing of staff and some expensive players. I note that you are hanging onto all of your players. If you liquidate, you seek to exist, and so I presume the clubs will decide whether to admit your fresh application for a new club. For me, the difference is a bit technical and I would vote to keep you in.'" Neither have Bradford yet, but this report seems to suggest Bradford have forfeited membership of SL from entering administration, and even if Liquidation is avoided it would be for the RFL in consultation with other SL clubs.(I thinking the consultation as a vote here) www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... over-bulls I was just wondering.

Quote: Slugger McBatt "We weren't liquidated. We went into admin and were bought when in admin. We received the penalty for going into admin (which I note you haven't received yet) but the club never seemed to exist. A new owner simply took over from the old owner, sorted out by the administrator. In between, he lowered the outgoings of the club by dispensing of staff and some expensive players. I note that you are hanging onto all of your players. If you liquidate, you seek to exist, and so I presume the clubs will decide whether to admit your fresh application for a new club. For me, the difference is a bit technical and I would vote to keep you in.'" Neither have Bradford yet, but this report seems to suggest Bradford have forfeited membership of SL from entering administration, and even if Liquidation is avoided it would be for the RFL in consultation with other SL clubs.(I thinking the consultation as a vote here) www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... over-bulls I was just wondering.