FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Who from squad
89 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach4036
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: tigertot "For a change I wasn't taking the p1ss, more thinking aloud. Extending that thought, can you have an abundance of world class?'"


I suppose it would depend on what is considered a "normal" amount.
e.g. the average number of "world class" centres for the last 10 years has been 5. In 2009, there is 7, therefore there is an abundance!?

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner8224No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2012Sep 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Wigan Bull "I suppose it would depend on what is considered a "normal" amount.
e.g. the average number of "world class" centres for the last 10 years has been 5. In 2009, there is 7, therefore there is an abundance!?'"


that or hyperbole,exageration and a blind ignoring of the facts

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman17146No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Wigan Bull "I suppose it would depend on what is considered a "normal" amount.
e.g. the average number of "world class" centres for the last 10 years has been 5. In 2009, there is 7, therefore there is an abundance!?'"


From FreeDictionary;

[iworld-class
adj.
1. Ranking among the foremost in the world; of an international standard of excellence; of the highest order

I suppose you could have 2 views from that.
1. You are the best available at the time (see Paul Deacon).
2. You have reached a comonly accepted standard of excellence, world-wide (see Sam Burgess).

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1332No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Wigan Bull "I suppose it would depend on what is considered a "normal" amount.
e.g. the average number of "world class" centres for the last 10 years has been 5. In 2009, there is 7, therefore there is an abundance!?'"


I see no problem with there being an abundance of anything... the word means

Quote: Wigan Bull "an extremely plentiful or oversufficient quantity or supply'"

dictionary.com

Which can pretty much be summed up as "there are many more available than are needed".

The other thing you need for this discussion is a definition of 'world class'. Possibly something like - of sufficient quality to have a strong chance of being selected for any of the top international sides irrespective of nationality constraints? (e.g. a French centre who would be good enough to play Origin or for Australia/NZ if he qualified).

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4035
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jan 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: ritz "Jeferies is an average player, nothing special, whereas he may not be on much, hes an overseas player, do we look to the here and now or the future?
Whereas the reserve players may not be ready yet, when are they? If we resign jefferies its just another yr that they aint gonna get any game time, then another, then another, some reserve players are already wishing they didnt resign and was elsewhere, you gott athrow them in eventually.
When did wigan think that tomkins was ready, or ainscough, when did leeds think mcguire, hall kirke etc was ready, when did cas think westerman, shenton owen etc were ready, they same age as some of our reserves, if they aint gonna get any game time they may never be ready.'"


Sorry to drag this up from the 1st page of this world class thread, but this links into this mornings T&A piece;

rlJeffries wants new dealrl

“[iI’ve not heard anything from Bradford yet but I’m not going to wait around too long. I like to have decisions made sooner rather than later. I’ve told Macca I want to stay though and my manager is on to it. The ball is in their court but hopefully it will get rolling now.” [/i

also interestingly;

"[iJeffries – who is aiming to have his quota status relaxed to aid his bid to stay..." [/i

If he comes off quota in some way that would make his resigning an even easier choice would it not?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3123
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2024Jan 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



definitely. after watching him against huddersfield i didn't think he'd amount to much this year but he's looking good all of a sudden. it can't harm to sign him to another year?

MDF
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1769No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2016Jan 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Duckman "If he comes off quota in some way that would make his resigning an even easier choice would it not?'"

According to my understanding, the answer is yes - but only marginally. He'll still be 'overseas trained' (of which I believe we can have 6, including quota players), but won't be 'quota' (of which we can have 5).

Thus, at the moment I think we have 7 overseas trained players, but of those only Jeffries, Menzies & Morrison are quota. Solomona & Tadulala are Kolpak, Rinaldi is an EU citizen and I think Nero is an EU passport holder.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2411No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2017Jan 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Duckman "Sorry to drag this up from the 1st page of this world class thread, but this links into this mornings T&A piece;

rlJeffries wants new dealrl

“[iI’ve not heard anything from Bradford yet but I’m not going to wait around too long. I like to have decisions made sooner rather than later. I’ve told Macca I want to stay though and my manager is on to it. The ball is in their court but hopefully it will get rolling now.” [/i

also interestingly;

"[iJeffries – who is aiming to have his quota status relaxed to aid his bid to stay..." [/i
If he comes off quota in some way that would make his resigning an even easier choice would it not?'"


If he gets off quota then yes, give him another yr, he`s better than sykes etc at s/o..but is he worth a quota spot when theres better out there?

By sound of that he wants to stay and he`s told bradford so for a while and they are leting it drag on..if they really wanted him to sign they would say yes there and then, are they looking at other options or waiting to see if he come off quota then they know where they stand..but id you hang around then other teams could come in for him..ie celtic/hull/hudders.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman17146No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



In SL at the moment there are only 3 SO's who i would suggest are possibly more valuable than BJ (in the short term at least) - Pryce, McGuire & Bosc. None of them are likely to be available (arguable), you are going to have to go overseas to get better.

MDF
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1769No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2016Jan 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: tigertot "In SL at the moment there are only 3 SO's who i would suggest are possibly more valuable than BJ (in the short term at least) - Pryce, McGuire & Bosc. None of them are likely to be available (arguable), you are going to have to go overseas to get better.'"

I'd add Horne - but that's academic as he is, if anything, even less available than the others.

Interesting, though, that Jeffries claims in the article to see himself as a SO, when many have argued that he's a natural scrum half.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman17146No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: MDF "I'd add Horne - but that's academic as he is, if anything, even less available than the others.

Interesting, though, that Jeffries claims in the article to see himself as a SO, when many have argued that he's a natural scrum half.'"


I see BJ as a natural SH.
As regards Horne, I'm just not sure what is his best position. He's almost a great player, but he doesn't attack the line like BJ did.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9158No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I personally feel that BJ is worth another 2 year deal, he's been one of our best players so far this year. We'd be daft to let Jeffries go but stick with Deacon for another year.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach4526
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: ritz "If he gets off quota then yes, give him another yr, he`s better than sykes etc at s/o..but is he worth a quota spot when theres better out there?

By sound of that he wants to stay and he`s told bradford so for a while and they are leting it drag on..if they really wanted him to sign they would say yes there and then, are they looking at other options or waiting to see if he come off quota then they know where they stand..but id you hang around then other teams could come in for him..ie celtic/hull/hudders.'"

Brdford are not letting it drag on but simply considering their options. He cannot sign for anybody else until later in the season so it seems reasonable that we look around at what may be on offer. There are too many people that immediately want to re-sign anyone that has had two or three good games and forget about his form before.

mat
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9554
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: MDF "According to my understanding, the answer is yes - but only marginally. He'll still be 'overseas trained' (of which I believe we can have 6, including quota players), but won't be 'quota' (of which we can have 5).

Thus, at the moment I think we have 7 overseas trained players, but of those only Jeffries, Menzies & Morrison are quota. Solomona & Tadulala are Kolpak, Rinaldi is an EU citizen and I think Nero is an EU passport holder.'"


of those only menzies and rinaldi are full quota. under rules change brought in at back end of last season anyone who joined us before april? 2008 is counted as overseas trained for as long as they stay in superleague. This is change in interpretation which led to us losing evans as we thought he'd count as a full quota spot. menzies joined us after deadline and rinaldi this year.

89 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
89 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.5107421875:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
2025 Squad Numbers
Hasbag
22
20m
Film game
karetaker
5863
20m
Realistic targets for 2025
Faithful One
150
21m
Leeds away first up
Trojan Horse
53
22m
Mike Cooper podcast
karetaker
13
32m
New signings
Huddersfield
9
34m
Ground Improvements
The Avenger
235
Recent
Planning for next season
Septimius Se
186
Recent
Rumours thread
Dr Dreadnoug
2517
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Realistic targets for 2025
Faithful One
150
2m
Planning for next season
Septimius Se
186
2m
Film game
karetaker
5863
3m
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
3m
Ground Improvements
The Avenger
235
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
2630
3m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
3m
New signings
Huddersfield
9
6m
2025 Kit
Marvin Goola
17
6m
Mike Cooper podcast
karetaker
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Hasbag
22
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
karetaker
13
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M +12,154 80,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
2025 Squad Numbers
Hasbag
22
20m
Film game
karetaker
5863
20m
Realistic targets for 2025
Faithful One
150
21m
Leeds away first up
Trojan Horse
53
22m
Mike Cooper podcast
karetaker
13
32m
New signings
Huddersfield
9
34m
Ground Improvements
The Avenger
235
Recent
Planning for next season
Septimius Se
186
Recent
Rumours thread
Dr Dreadnoug
2517
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Realistic targets for 2025
Faithful One
150
2m
Planning for next season
Septimius Se
186
2m
Film game
karetaker
5863
3m
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
3m
Ground Improvements
The Avenger
235
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
2630
3m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
3m
New signings
Huddersfield
9
6m
2025 Kit
Marvin Goola
17
6m
Mike Cooper podcast
karetaker
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Hasbag
22
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
karetaker
13
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!