cant see situation improving much next week. We had 5 of our 1st choice 17 out today and only langley and orford to come back into contention next week. Langley will certainly help with out defense down nero/reardons wing and orford will give us the direction we've been so obviously missing but dont think that will be enough to get a result against wire. and thats assuming both do return, with the constant langley a week away comments combined with us looking for a loan forward I suspect his injury is a lot worse than club are admitting.

I'm off for a brew before I blow my top.

and yet going into this game we had 4th best defense in league. Think langleys absence is key to breakdown in our defense last few weeks. He gets through a hell of a lot of work defensively. Worrincy and whitehead try their best but are a little too lightweight and not in same class. Although whitehead definitely has potential.

You have to question the decision by the coaches to take Wardle off. He was the one of the only ones in attack who looked threatening and he won us the ball twice with 2 big hits.

England are in for a treat come this four nations

milk, 2 sugars pls

Stop bringing facts into it.

Apparently Cummins has banned Macca from giving his legendary half time team talks.

We're not disputing the fact that we have had good defence on the whole this season. It is however very worrying that we can concede so much 2 games on the bounce, and nearly 50 against Crusaders (who have been off form the last few weeks aswell).

If Langley doesn't get back soon then we need to be worried.

Are we not blaming it on the tough Easter weekend, or the Wire challenge cup game anymore?

apart from hauruki's 2 tries they mainly scored down the wings. Langleys absence the obvious weakness down reardon/neros side. Makes you appreciate how much work platt gets through on other side though.

I'm already worrying about Langley, we've been told he's due back a few times already. At what point in this weeks training did they decide he wasn't up to it ?

I got impression he wouldnt be playing from comments he made in his article on T&A on friday (I think). certainly seems a bit ridiculous that we get told he's a week away for, I think, 5 weeks running. Thought had crossed my mind that maybe contract talks have broken down and he's taken his bat and ball home although in his defence that would be out of character.

I've given up guessing. Im not thinking he's back until we hear a "will" instead of "might"

Dont we keep hearing 'will'?

And yet coming out of it we are 7th. Anyway, that's irrelevant, we cant defend for toffee.
Our defence has been to weak for to long.