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| Quote: bullinenemyland "
...What makes you think that we could not assemble a better squad with 3 months notice?...
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Will we have 3 months notice though? I think people are seriously underestimating the implications of the impending employment tribunal in January...
If the costs involved are anything like FA suggested, then I don't see how we can possibly plan properly until after the outcome of that tribunal has been determined - that leaves us barely a month at best to know where we truly stand for next season in terms of available finances. I can't help but feel we're in for another headache of a Christmas and New Year again as we will be in limbo.
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| Quote: Bullmans Parade "Will we have 3 months notice though? I think people are seriously underestimating the implications of the impending employment tribunal in January...
If the costs involved are anything like FA suggested, then I don't see how we can possibly plan properly until after the outcome of that tribunal has been determined - that leaves us barely a month at best to know where we truly stand for next season in terms of available finances. I can't help but feel we're in for another headache of a Christmas and New Year again as we will be in limbo.'"
Agreed.
And theres no way I'm putting my nearest & dearest through the downs and lows of last Christmas - I spent more time trying to find out what was happening to the Bulls than I did talking to the family all through the festive break - and thats just wrong.
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| Quote: Smack him Jimmy "Agreed.
And theres no way I'm putting my nearest & dearest through the downs and lows of last Christmas - I spent more time trying to find out what was happening to the Bulls than I did talking to the family all through the festive break - and thats just wrong.'"
But......but.......if the Bulls don't go through some off field problems that will mean I actually have to talk to mine during the festive period for the first time since 2010!!! Roll on the off season shenanigans!!
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| Quote: Smack him Jimmy "Agreed.
And theres no way I'm putting my nearest & dearest through the downs and lows of last Christmas - I spent more time trying to find out what was happening to the Bulls than I did talking to the family all through the festive break - and thats just wrong.'"
I was the same. I'm not doing that again. Certainly not getting a season ticket until thst situation has been resolved. We've been burnt before.
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| Quote: Smack him Jimmy "Agreed.
And theres no way I'm putting my nearest & dearest through the downs and lows of last Christmas - I spent more time trying to find out what was happening to the Bulls than I did talking to the family all through the festive break - and thats just wrong.'"
If that was genuinely the case, I think it probably says more about you than the current situation at Odsal
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| Quote: bullinenemyland "I'm not seeing the argument about not being able to assemble a decent squad for next season should we stay up.
The current squad is one that was "thrown" together at two weeks notice. It is also what was left of the previous squad once all the better players had been picked off. What makes you think that we could not assemble a better squad with 3 months notice?
Plus, the hybrid system in the Championship should have been one we embraced every since we got relegated. Anyone who has played lower league or amateur stuff knows there are far better players turning out in the Yorkshire Leagues than are currently on full time contracts in some Championship clubs and even lower end SL teams. Natural skill levels are far more important than how much you can lift or how long you spend at the training ground.
I'd happily take a place in the second tier after a restructure. I have no problems at all. The RFL and SL have shat on us enough times to say it would be payback.
SL money taken and "redistributed", minus 12pt deduction, Hull KR three times, no centralised funding, generous "donation" to Rugby League Cares fund???
Rest of the clubs could go whistle for me. If i believed we could survive L2 and have a shot at making it back to the top i'd say to go down just to make others suffer, but i'm not convinced.
Every club for themselves I say... roll on the re-structure!!!'"
This has become my view! Yes we should be in L1 but we should have been there last year. Everyone from the RFL to Green back to Hood Moore et al have used the club and fans for personal gain. It's about time the fans had reason to want to carry on, that starts for me with investing in a squad capable of competing in whichever competition we are in. My major gripe is If the money spent on Smith Gibson Chisholm Tonga etc had been done at the start of the season I really believe we would have had a better chance of surviving. Including the shield 15 wins from 30 games for a full time side if that money was spent would have been achieveable
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| Quote: Bull Mania "If we're kept in the championship its a scandal. The RFL are the ones running the sport not the bloody clubs (otherwise you get the ridiculous situation of SL clubs not having acadmies and reserves) as others have said just because some clubs want a bit extra money, the rules everyone signed up for at the beginning of the season should be adhered.
By the way the RFL really don't help repel the conspiracy theorists. Remember Johnny Campbell's red card for his dangerous tackle. Well my anger was because ive seen much worse than that, that weren't punished. Low and be hold an absolute shocker of a spear tackle occurs (Greg Bird) and the referee sends them to the sin bin!!! Simply not good enough! Its in the below video (1 min 26 i believe)
I suspect they probably had the ban reduced because of Sam Moa's influence in the tackle. If you watch it again you can see that Moa grabs the fax player around his shoulders while Greg is around his waist lifting. If Sam didn't pull the fax player towards the ground it probably wouldn't have ended up as a dangerous tackle.
Campbell couldnt really use the same argument because he was the only one involved in the tackle.
I can see why the conspiracy theorists will be going crazy though, that one game reduction means he can now play in the mpg if Catalans end up in it
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| Give us the 12 points back we would currently be 5th in the shield albeit narrowly.
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| The key to next season is us having the time and resources to be able to recruit properly. The reason we won the games we did this season was largely down to players we're about to lose or ones we've lost already. (Murray, Larroyer, Oledzki, Moore, Lilley, Bentley, Ryan).
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| We need a settled squad, mixture of the good young lads and experience.
I've just watched the full sheff game and we could do with keeping keyes, Aston and Chissy we would have a more than adequate half back set up..especially with a lot more time together / coaching from Toovey..
We would need to sign Aston though not loan or he will just get called back.
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| Even more important is a decent pack of forwards to make sure our halves and kids don't get bullied. We're playing Dewsbury this weekend. The last time we played there Keyes was taken out of the game due to horrendous foul play and Thomas was chucked into the barriers. We had no answer to that kind of thuggery and the referee did nothing (despite bans being handed out later). Next season we need a couple of forwards that will make the opposition think twice before doing those things again.
You can do quite well if you're in charge of the game up front even if your halfbacks and backs aren't quite good enough. I remember back in the mid to late 80s we finished in the top half of the 1st division because we had the biggest, toughest pack in the business. We had only one halfback and our backs, with all due respect, weren't they classiest. It didn't matter. The likes of Kelvin Skerrett and Karl Fairbank ensured no liberties were taken. We need a couple of forwards with their qualities now.
I remember Wigan signing Skerrett and their coach Monie saying he was a key signing as he made his opponents "tread a little lighter" with him on the field. We need an enforcer or two before we think about the flashy halfbacks.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Even more important is a decent pack of forwards to make sure our halves and kids don't get bullied. We're playing Dewsbury this weekend. The last time we played there Keyes was taken out of the game due to horrendous foul play and Thomas was chucked into the barriers. We had no answer to that kind of thuggery and the referee did nothing (despite bans being handed out later). Next season we need a couple of forwards that will make the opposition think twice before doing those things again.
You can do quite well if you're in charge of the game up front even if your halfbacks and backs aren't quite good enough. I remember back in the mid to late 80s we finished in the top half of the 1st division because we had the biggest, toughest pack in the business. We had only one halfback and our backs, with all due respect, weren't they classiest. It didn't matter. The likes of Kelvin Skerrett and Karl Fairbank ensured no liberties were taken. We need a couple of forwards with their qualities now.
I remember Wigan signing Skerrett and their coach Monie saying he was a key signing as he made his opponents "tread a little lighter" with him on the field. We need an enforcer or two before we think about the flashy halfbacks.'"
Would love to see Alex Rowe in a Bulls shirt. Also Matt Groat he liked to put it about as Gaskell found out
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| Quote: bullinenemyland "If that was genuinely the case, I think it probably says more about you than the current situation at Odsal
Being too passionate about my beloved Bulls. Yep you are dead feckin right there.
I suppose thats due to the numerous years of supporting them through thick and thin, the highs and the lows, the days of being drenched on the terraces, spending ridiculous amounts on club merchandise; my sons, brothers, dad, uncles & mates all of us Bulls fans standing together home and away was like being part of a big family.
Dont worry the last 10 months has made me re-prioritise where the Bulls come in my life, and I dont think I'm the only Bulls fan who has come to that decision. Sad really.
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| Not a fan of DR at all, it's a waste of time.
We should utilise loans, but they should be in our favour, ie season long/2 season long loans no recalls. If they wont give us them on those terms then forget it, look elsewhere. Nothing worse this season than losing Oled/Lilley/Murray etc as Bullseye said.
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| Sort of agree with Bulls 4 but with the odd exception, and that is that, sometimes you just have no choice.
But for the short term loans and DRs I doubt we would have had 17 players to put out in the opening games - and, before anyone suggests it, I don't agree we should have put out of kids who were not big enough, strong enough or mature enough, that was [inever[/i an option. This year was definitely one of those exceptions, but there is no reason to accept that the same applies for next year because it doesn't, as we have time to bring in players though, that said, action on that front already seems more than a bit tardy. The odd loan player I'm happy to accept but if we end up [idepending[/i on them to put a team out for a second year, then I'll be seriously unhappy about the way this club is being run.
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