FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Marc Green |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 28357 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2024 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
973_1515165968.gif Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif |
|
| Yes, you're missing the point. You need to park this season and be grateful Green is up for another crack, because if not for him, whatever you want to say about this season, we would effectively now be dead. Yet he says if we keep coming then we have a new year and a full time team. If you don't buy into that then that's your choice. I've said my bit about the debacle of 2016 and now I am just relieved we can look forward. I don't blame anyone for being disillusioned, and just hope enough keep the faith.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 137 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2016 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2016 | Jul 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| e] Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Yes, you're missing the point. You need to park this season and be grateful Green is up for another crack, because if not for him, whatever you want to say about this season, we would effectively now be dead. Yet he says if we keep coming then we have a new year and a full time team. If you don't buy into that then that's your choice. I've said my bit about the debacle of 2016 and now I am just relieved we can look forward. I don't blame anyone for being disillusioned, and just hope enough keep the faith.'"
The club need to either bring in more income commercially or sort out the on field issues. Constantly repeating 'if you want success you'll have to pay for it' isn't working and as you mentioned what happens if fifty percent of support base decide they've had enough?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 2418 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Mar 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
74893_1459005583.jpg snaivooladniv eht fo thgim eht eraweb:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74893.jpg |
|
| There will never be a shortage of fans that want an owner to match THIER ambitions with HIS money , I've seen it at Leigh , I've seen it posted countless times on these boards
I remember seeing the opinions passed on this board a couple of years ago of your previous owner and his million pound ' investment ' , I was disgusted with some of them
I regret that Mr Green will most likely suffer similar now , for doing nothing other than tipping money in , doing his best and telling it like it is
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 249 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2022 | Nov 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Yes, you're missing the point. You need to park this season and be grateful Green is up for another crack, because if not for him, whatever you want to say about this season, we would effectively now be dead. Yet he says if we keep coming then we have a new year and a full time team. If you don't buy into that then that's your choice. I've said my bit about the debacle of 2016 and now I am just relieved we can look forward. I don't blame anyone for being disillusioned, and just hope enough keep the faith.'"
Exactly
Most of yesterday, once the gloating rumour generators had gained momentum, I couldn't think straight for worrying we were going to disappear.
They love it don't they, specially the likes of Ratty Schofield.
That statment needed to be made and its a good one as far as I am concerned.
Ross Heppenstall described it as a "diatribe" - so whats his problem then? There is nothing there that did not need to be said.
As for the abuse of Directors and drinks in the face of a player - just not on..
So yes - I am more than grateful to Marc Green for keeping the club going.
I did not intent to watch the pointless shield games - but on the back of that statement - I will go to them all now just to put my money in and continue my support.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 4526 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
13619.gif :13619.gif |
|
| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Yes, you're missing the point. You need to park this season and be grateful Green is up for another crack, because if not for him, whatever you want to say about this season, we would effectively now be dead. Yet he says if we keep coming then we have a new year and a full time team. If you don't buy into that then that's your choice. I've said my bit about the debacle of 2016 and now I am just relieved we can look forward. I don't blame anyone for being disillusioned, and just hope enough keep the faith.'"
So we need to park this season (even though it is only July). And we need to park last season because we got to the MPG, despite the fact that a lot of the performances dire. And we had to park the season before because we had a six point deduction for going into administration. I daresay you are expecting to say that we really can't expect much next season as there will be so many new players that they need time to play together. We may as well park that.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9986 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2019 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
13747_1541715311.jpg [b:3g5rrn89](and I feel fine)[/b:3g5rrn89]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13747.jpg |
|
| Quote: rugbyreddog "So we need to park this season (even though it is only July). And we need to park last season because we got to the MPG, despite the fact that a lot of the performances dire. And we had to park the season before because we had a six point deduction for going into administration. I daresay you are expecting to say that we really can't expect much next season as there will be so many new players that they need time to play together. We may as well park that.'"
God, I'm terrible at parking as well.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 312 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2021 | Mar 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| I like Green, and agree with most of his comments. I think a lot of us would be more onside if someone would just own up and say, "Yes we got some things wrong, particularly with some signings, and the scrum half debacle" However its done now. Will be there for the next home match, daft as a brush but still supporting, and might I add, grateful to Marc Green for keeping my club going.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 7160 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
59880_1480501182.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_59880.jpg |
|
| Quote: rugbyreddog "Am I missing the point somewhere. People blaming Jimmy, People Blaming Ferres. People blaming Green. People blaming Smith. I personally would like to hear someone higher up saying "You know what, the players performed awful. It was their fault". However, when my Grand kids say why did Bradford RL go out of business, I can respond that its my fault I just didn't drink enough beer.'"
Tend to agree with this. I am disappointed that there appears to be a complete lack of acknowledgment from the players that they have utterly loved up this season.
I've only seen Mellor and Addy and Chev say something but it was more playing the victim card. "we're hurting just as much as you" Can't stand when people play the victim in a situation they created themselves.
Not seen one comment like "we've not been good enough. Sorry etc" Actions speak louder than words, but at least an acknowledgment would have been nice.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 1604 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2021 | Jul 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
11062.gif A casual stroll throught the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.:11062.gif |
|
| Quote: Errol Stock "I did not intent to watch the pointless shield games - but on the back of that statement - I will go to them all now just to put my money in and continue my support.'"
This. I'm actually very happy with Marc's comments, and am currently looking for ways of making myself poorer in order to benefit the club, in solidarity with Marc's own efforts. It's possibly foolish on my part, but I [ido[/i trust the guy, which is more than can be said for all of the previous leaders at the club since I started watching in over 20 years ago.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3546 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
69500_1482141774.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_69500.jpg |
|
| Marc is undoubtedly a better person to be in charge of the club than Omar Khan, Ryan Whitcut or Mark Moore. Which admittedly is like saying someone is a better babysitter than Jimmy Saville would have been, but nevertheless, it's a positive.
Personally, my jury is still out on him. But I am under no illusions that we're better off with him than a lot of the clowns that we've had (or nearly had) recently.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 1604 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2021 | Jul 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
11062.gif A casual stroll throught the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.:11062.gif |
|
| Well indeed. People involved in professional sport are generally pretty dodgy. The fact that Marc appears to be generally trustworthy, broadly open, and is not promising anything unrealistic, puts him a cut above the usual rabble. That doesn't mean I think he will be able to lead us to greatness, and given the millstone that is Odsal that is round our necks, I still think it's fairly likely that we will go out of existence in the next few years. I do however trust that Marc will do a good job with what he has at his disposal and will perform with integrity. I don't think there's much more we can ask, beyond someone with the same qualities but more money.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 370 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2022 | Aug 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
18257_1534281652.jpeg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18257.jpeg |
|
| I honestly can't see where Marc is supposed to be blaming the fans. All he is doing is pointing out the obvious; this is a business where the majority of income comes from the fans. Without the fans providing that income the business cannot survive with its current expenditure.
Regarding players, he has answered a question people have been debating all season; who had the final say on recruitment? Apparently Jimmy did and turned down players who would have been very useful to the team. I think the fact that there has been a sharp improvement in the quality of recruits filling the change of coach, despite Ferres still being in place, pretty much backs this up.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 31955 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
438_1551258406.jpg "If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_438.jpg |
Moderator
|
| I don't often go on about what I do for a living but this could all have been sorted with some pretty simple crisis management principles. Any written statement or piece to the camera following a negative incident can be dealt with as follows -
PITY - I feel desperately sorry that we didn't make the play offs. Everyone is bitterly disappointed. We just didn't perform on the day and credit to Featherstone who did.
PRAISE - I'd like to thank the supporters for following us in such big numbers. Your contribution is huge. Nothing would be possible without you. Players and directors come and go but supporters stay true through thick and thin as you have demonstrated these past few seasons.
PROMISE - I promise the club as a whole will learn lessons from this and be better. We will be fully professional next year and I promise as Chairman that we will be doing everything we can to improve on this year's performances.
You can write statements like this in advance for all kinds of scenario. I've done it many times. It provides a comment which is so important in this day and age. Leaving a communication vacuum is the worst thing you can do. Rumours develop and fill it. Before you know it a poopstorm has developed needlessly. People love to speculate - just look at the news - most of it is speculation. Social media adds another dimension. You can head a lot of it off with some decent prepared statements that can buy you time.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 7594 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2021 | May 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
8_1434361123.jpg When my club didn't exist it was still bigger than yours:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_8.jpg |
|
| Damn. You must have to say sorry a lot.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3546 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
69500_1482141774.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_69500.jpg |
|
| Quote: Bullseye "I don't often go on about what I do for a living but this could all have been sorted with some pretty simple crisis management principles. Any written statement or piece to the camera following a negative incident can be dealt with as follows -
PITY - I feel desperately sorry that we didn't make the play offs. Everyone is bitterly disappointed. We just didn't perform on the day and credit to Featherstone who did.
PRAISE - I'd like to thank the supporters for following us in such big numbers. Your contribution is huge. Nothing would be possible without you. Players and directors come and go but supporters stay true through thick and thin as you have demonstrated these past few seasons.
PROMISE - I promise the club as a whole will learn lessons from this and be better. We will be fully professional next year and I promise as Chairman that we will be doing everything we can to improve on this year's performances.
You can write statements like this in advance for all kinds of scenario. I've done it many times. It provides a comment which is so important in this day and age. Leaving a communication vacuum is the worst thing you can do. Rumours develop and fill it. Before you know it a poopstorm has developed needlessly. People love to speculate - just look at the news - most of it is speculation. Social media adds another dimension. You can head a lot of it off with some decent prepared statements that can buy you time.'"
PITY - I'm sorry you are not satisfied.
PRAISE - You were ace though. It's not you, it's me.
PROMISE - I'll go see the doctor tomorrow.
Hey, this works. Mind if I nick it?
|
|
|
|
|
|