Possibly true several years ago. But with the increased central funding now, any team with about 8k average gate or better should be break even or make a profit. If they are a team with a low maintenance, newer stadium, designed for the corporate £, then they should have no excuses.

We were doubly unlucky in that we imploded in the year of renewed relegation, and the year before a big increase in funding kicked in.

I do note you said British RL -as Catalans are raking in 5-6million euros of sponsorship and local government grants a year, in addition to the £1.8m of TV money.

I think the main thing that needs to be considered is that our expenses with regards to the stadium are far bigger than any club in the division. It would be interesting to see if we even broke even this season.

Interesting that green is tweeting we've sold more season tickets than at same point last year. With issues with card machines, winding up order and ferres' articles thought we'd be well down on numbers.

I'm not necessarily surprised. Although there was some 'backs against the wall' drive and optimism this time last year, we'd been relegated following years of progressive decay. This time round we've had a moderately successful season, and some things to feel broadly positive about for the first time in a long long while. However, it might just be nothing but spin. At this point, who can say?

Interesting observations from Robbie "One of the problems we have in sports administration is that sport is emotional," he said. "It's not a retail item, it's something that makes up the spiritual fabric of your surroundings, your community and culture. "Sometimes sports administrators get drowned in the emotion and forget what the objectives of the business are." Taken from his interview here www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/737 ... ford-bulls

Interesting observations from Robbie "One of the problems we have in sports administration is that sport is emotional," he said. "It's not a retail item, it's something that makes up the spiritual fabric of your surroundings, your community and culture. "Sometimes sports administrators get drowned in the emotion and forget what the objectives of the business are." Taken from his interview here www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/737 ... ford-bulls

We've heard nothing from the club for a while and no-one has mentioned the 'Gazette' recently, does anyone know if the winding up order has been rescinded or is it still in force?

It would be good to have something from the club to clear this up

A wall of silence simply allows people to feel uncertain / start rumours / fear the worst / make up conspiracies (delete as appropriate)

Either way, it can't be doing a lot for season ticket sales

The club said it was in the hands of the legal team might not be anything else to be said at the moment.

Why does it need to be in the hands of the legal team? Either we've paid what we owe or we haven't. All you have to do is ring 'em up and say "ow, you've had the cheque and you've cashed it and we can send you proof with a bank statement" FFS.

Unless we've paid it and the HMRC have mistakenly applied the credit to one of the defunct companies then slapped us with a default notice due to their error. I imagine the legal team would be pushing for more than a retraction of their error due to the damage done to our (slowly recovering) reputation....

That would be my thoughts as well.

I asked the question a few pages back... If the Bulls haven't done anything wrong, could there be a case for damages caused?

What damages? Have you paid any damages to the businesses that lost out in the two years previous to last years.

Must admit though there are some quite interesting theories being bandied around