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| I'm surprised Leeds can afford him given the already ample squad they have assembled.
We must be very close to the cap now, and I suppose it makes sense that El Presidente has stated we can't recall BJB for salary cap reasons.
Still, I'd expect a few players not to make the cut at the end of the season, even if some of the oldies like Senior retire.
Good news from a Leeds perspective to have him back at HQ, and possibly from an England POV if he can rediscover some form. Good to see at the start of this thread some of you Bulls fans finally admitting that he's a good player. I expect normal service will resume shortly. 
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| Quote New_Farnley_Bull="New_Farnley_Bull"If I remember rightly he left due to salary cap restrictions in the first place'"
You're wrong.
Quote New_Farnley_Bull="New_Farnley_Bull"Leeds have invested in both Eastwood and Delaney (neither of which would come cheap) yet they suddenly find enough room to resign Smith mid season? You look at the names in the Leeds and Wire squads and have to wonder how the hell they do it (legally?!?!)'"
Wait a minute. Leeds signed Eastwood last season and must have been able to pay him (even if he has only materialised this year), so you can take him out of the equation. Delaney was signed as I understood it as a replacement for Smith, so we have to assume that he is coming back on partially reduced terms and/or Leeds have a lot more space on the cap than many thought. Bear in mind that most clubs leave space for an emergency signing mid-season, and several Leeds players stated last year that they had accepted lower pay offers from Leeds to remain part of the GF winning team. I don't have any firm evidence here but unless anyone can produce any evidence to the contrary we must assume that Leeds are playing by the rules.
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| Well, given that we now have a live salary cap, Leeds HAVE to have the space to sign Smith otherwise the RFL would block the transfer.
but given the players in Leeds team, you do have to wonder if they're getting away with murder somewhere
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| Quote New_Farnley_Bull="New_Farnley_Bull"Could somebody please explain to me how Leeds have found the money to (allegedly) re-sign Lee Smith whilst also remaining under the salary cap?
If I remember rightly he left due to salary cap restrictions in the first place, and Leeds have invested in both Eastwood and Delaney (neither of which would come cheap) yet they suddenly find enough room to resign Smith mid season? You look at the names in the Leeds and Wire squads and have to wonder how the hell they do it (legally?!?!)'"
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| Quote Roofaldo="Roofaldo"Well, given that we now have a live salary cap, Leeds HAVE to have the space to sign Smith otherwise the RFL would block the transfer.
but given the players in Leeds team, you do have to wonder if they're getting away with murder somewhere'"
To be honest, I can't imagine how they untangle the whole Leeds Rugby/Tykes/Rhinos triangle. We have to assume it's all above board and I'm sure the Leeds club wouldn't do anything wrong, though I certainly wouldn't trust the RFL to boil an egg, never mind to have the capacity to run the rule over complex, financial business dealings.
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| Will a mod pleeeease merge these two Lee Smith threads.
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| Quote Roofaldo="Roofaldo"Well, given that we now have a live salary cap, Leeds HAVE to have the space to sign Smith otherwise the RFL would block the transfer.
but given the players in Leeds team, you do have to wonder if they're getting away with murder somewhere'"
Have look at G1's signature there's a clue there.
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| far be it from me to maybe point out something which may actually defend the whinos but, we all know that Hetherington mentioned only a few weeks ago that there where cap implications with bringing any of there loanee's back i.e. ben jones bishop.
I personally think that they will have resigned Smith on absolutely peanuts for this season, - baring in mind he will have been earning a higher wage in union for the last 6 months. His wage for the remaining term of his contract after this season (4 years I think) will be back up at the level which we would expect, and lets face it, they are likley to let Ali Tutti-frutti go (he has already let it be known he wants to go bcak to NZ), and I bet Senior won't be retained - which will slot Smith back in at centre. That will give ample space for Smith.
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Quote silsdenbull="silsdenbull"far be it from me to maybe point out something which may actually defend the whinos but, we all know that Hetherington mentioned only a few weeks ago that there where cap implications with bringing any of there loanee's back i.e. ben jones bishop.
I personally think that they will have resigned Smith on absolutely peanuts for this season, - baring in mind he will have been earning a higher wage in union for the last 6 months. His wage for the remaining term of his contract after this season (4 years I think) will be back up at the level which we would expect, and lets face it, they are likley to let Ali Tutti-frutti go (he has already let it be known he wants to go bcak to NZ), and I bet Senior won't be retained - which will slot Smith back in at centre. That will give ample space for Smith.
Just a thought.'"
Think your spot on, Smith will probs be playing for peanuts but that will be made up in the next few years. Senior will still be at Leeds next season. But your right about Ali he is thinking about going home. Donald and Buderus are out of contract too and at least one of them will head home imo. Interesting article regarding Buderus from a few weeks back:
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5837155974
Buderus will free up more than enough to keep Smithy happy!
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Quote silsdenbull="silsdenbull"far be it from me to maybe point out something which may actually defend the whinos but, we all know that Hetherington mentioned only a few weeks ago that there where cap implications with bringing any of there loanee's back i.e. ben jones bishop.
I personally think that they will have resigned Smith on absolutely peanuts for this season, - baring in mind he will have been earning a higher wage in union for the last 6 months. His wage for the remaining term of his contract after this season (4 years I think) will be back up at the level which we would expect, and lets face it, they are likley to let Ali Tutti-frutti go (he has already let it be known he wants to go bcak to NZ), and I bet Senior won't be retained - which will slot Smith back in at centre. That will give ample space for Smith.
Just a thought.'"
Think your spot on, Smith will probs be playing for peanuts but that will be made up in the next few years. Senior will still be at Leeds next season. But your right about Ali he is thinking about going home. Donald and Buderus are out of contract too and at least one of them will head home imo. Interesting article regarding Buderus from a few weeks back:
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5837155974
Buderus will free up more than enough to keep Smithy happy!
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| Didn't think you could defer payments to later years in a contract, after Wigan were found guilty of having broken a non existent rule? Isn't the average of the contract over it's term used for the live cap.
Anyway which ever way it's done the RFL have accepted his registration so their total player payments must fit under the cap.
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