Struggled???.....I'd say tested rather than struggled....Conditons were a bit of a leveller, a couple of injuries to key players caused a bit of chaos in the ranks in the first half, but overall we won by 13 points without getting out of second gear.

It was actually quite a satisfying win, simply because it was the type of game where we couldn't bully a side like we normally do, yet we won with a bit in hand at the end.

I know it sounds patronising, but you were playing close to your best last night, we were nowhere near, in fact we haven't been yet this season.....This Wire side is a summer side, and I'd expect us to improve dramatically in the coming months as pitches dry out.

As for bragging material?...Like I say, most of us are just happy that finally we have a side which can be regarded as a genuine threat in the competition.....Surely with what you lot are going through, coupled with the glories where you have sunk from, you can respect that?

Yes you struggled, we've also our first choice scrum half missing (Gale) and 2 other definate first choice players (Elima and Purtell) so we will also improve and i don't believe we were at our best by a long way.

Like i said earlier you are def top 4 material (we are not) but the gap is not as massive as some people like to make out.

And the 13 point margin was very flattering. 3 points would have been a fairer reflection of the game.

Unfortunately, I think it is (despite what Sky would like you to believe).....Too much mediocrity in the league, I'm a keen supporter of those who think we are 4 sides too many in the league.

Not saying you shouldn't be there, but at the moment a situation where you can predict the top 6 at the start of the season, isn't good for the game.

The sad thing, as the season wears on, and injuries take hold, pitches dry out, the better teams will only pull away even further from those struggling to compete.

You've got a point with the top 6 but 10 years ago we had the "Big 4" and no-one else generally got a look in so there has been some improvement there in the competition. In those days it was unthinkable for a side to win it from 5th...

This is a GREAT discussion, no really.

I thought the topic was Chris Bridges forearm smash ( as it would be called in wrestling terms ) on Jeffries.

Anyway, as you say, as the season wears on and our injured players come back and those that have just come back get up to match sharpness so we have a fully up to speed pack and set of backs, the pitch dries out so players such as Sammut and our two NRL centres who are used to dry conditions all can show their running skills, and a much changed squad and in particular new half backs and those NRL centres (who still havent played together yet) finally has time to gel, yes, we are looking forward to being a better team. Did Warrington suddenly start winning trophies overnight? So yes you are being patronising, because this team has played nowhere near its best yet.

If our early 2000 sides were the blueprint, you're still some way off getting there.

You haven't even won SL yet, whereas we had a treble winning team. We might have fallen from a great height, but it was from a height that you aren't close to reaching yet.

Ahh, bless there little cotton socks, one hub cap and they think they are the greatest team ever to grace super league, let's deal with facts here, saints Have proven to be the best team in super league closely followed by Leeds then us an Wigan, wire have a long way to go before they can be mentioned in the same breath as those four teams

You can't argue with Bradford's record, they have won those trophies and their fans have enjoyed those good times.

But I would rather be where we are now. I am sure back in 1997 if messageboards were around then you could have got some Wigan fans saying LOL look at these Bulls fans thinking their team is special, what have you won, nothing, just got to two major finals and bottled it, come back when you have won everything like Wigan. But I bet the Bradford fans enjoyed the following years more than Wigan fans did.

Bradford at the moment are miles away from winning trophies, however much they try to do down where Warrington are now, their fans would love the Bulls to be where Warrington are top of the league playing the rugby we do. Whether we win as many trophies as Bradford did between 1997-2005 who knows but we have got more chance of winning things in the upcoming years than Bradford do.

The danger for Bradford fans now is that the fairly recent happy memories will have nothing more added to them, so will just start to slip further back, as it has for the Widnes fans who have been having to cling to their 1980s glories for two barren decades now.

Having watched it again, it's a bad challenge. He has no intention of going for the ball, regardless of what some blinkered Wire fans think they see. Awful. I would be shocked with anything less than 2 matches.

Has the incident actually been placed on report?

No. Not as far as I know.
Does it matter?

Don't let common sense stand in the way of their Liverpool-style reminiscing, Sally.....As you say, while we are nowhere near acheiving what they did just yet, its highly apparent that they and us are heading in slightly different directions at present.

But as long as you have memories of 10 years ago, then what does that matter?...

Well unless it was put on report or the RFL call him in the conjecture is pretty pointless.