We do have quality within our squad, i'm not suggesting that we are blessed with world class players but i believe players such as:

Kearney, Sammut, Gale, Elima, Whitehead, Kear, Scruton (on his day) Langley, Diskin, L'Estrange, Kopczack, Burgess have a good enough pedigree to make most top 8 sides. Along with Lulia, Purtell and Manoukafoa who have enough NRL first grade games under their belts and also Pryce who does score tries whatever your views are.

NONE OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED WOULD GET INTO THE SAINTS TEAM.

Ok add Chev Walker and thats 17 named, a game day squad. If you look at other teams (that made the top 8 last year and tipped again this year) Hull FC for example, look who they have in reserve outside there first choice 17, mostly kids.

I don't believe any squad outside Warrington, Saints, Wigan, Catalans and Leeds have any better depth than ours, maybe Huddersfield. So....on that basis we should be competing for a place in the top 8! like i said at the start of this thread and others, 7th or 8th place is achievable.

Because it wasn't (IMO) justified, we were very unlucky to go in at nil. If we were one score behind at half time would they have been booed?

And there's a big difference between not clapping and booing.

I'm pretty sure the club know how hurtful another bad season will be.

I take it that you've seen a lot of Lulia, Purtell and Manoukafoa then to make that judgement?

Maybe you should try some of them, you might win a GF then.

I struggle with opera tbh, so you lot would have absolutely no comprehension.

Kear and Kearney wouldnt but Gardner and Wellens does!!!

Funny how Hargreaves did get in that side and was your best prop against Leeds and im sure he played against Wigan in 2010

Just watching the game over again, as much as every body is over reacting, most the trys we conceded are preventable with a bit more focused training, especially the ruck, everyone agrees the forwards were dominated but we did some good things and will only get better. Still hold good hopes for this year when we get some pack members back, but Scruton for me is a liability he is still miles behind the speed of the game. Also Langley is a PROP not a 13.

Maybe you should trying to sign Tom Burgess then.

Sums up my thoughts. When the Catalans flung the ball out wide, we coped pretty well. It was just the defence in the middle that let us down. The disappointing thing for me was the breaks were not even a set piece, just a straight running prop.

First 10/15 mins, i actually thought we were the better team, making good meters and looking dangerous.

The one thing that did concern me was that in the 2nd half, when our heads were down, we had 3/4 sets on their line and we were out of ideas. Back to last year when we let the forwards drive the ball in for 5 plays. It would be nice to see the players attempt to execute a set play, especially when their heads are down!

Pretty much, bit of strong coaching and getting forwards off the floor, too many times a prop would be left on the floor leaving Henderson to tear us apart. Thinking about it, there was a no try, also of Langley had let the ball go behind him insteadif thinking he was 10 men abd letting Kearney pick it up round back we had a overlap and a score, submit dropped the ball on the break. That's 18 points depending gales boot. Few less errors with ball in hand and a quicker more solid ruck and its a different game totally. Judge them after 10 games time

Doubt you'll get relegated this season though, you'll be OK.