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| Quote: tigertot "I have no knowledge of the scheme or the procedures the council has in place for employing consultants or contractors but some indication of what is usually involved & why there is no chance of it being ready for 2012;
Advertise in the Euroepean Journal for expressions of interest from architects, engineers etc interetsed in the scheme.
Send out a pre-qulaifcation questionnaire to all applying.
Read through the hundreds (& there will be) of responses, score them all in accordance with pre-published criteria, shortlist.
Send out invitations to tender to shortlisted consultants.
Read through numerous 3" thick submissions, each going to hundreds of pages, score them all etc.
Arrange interviews for all disciplines.
Interview.
Notify all unsuccessful consultants, giving them time to legally challenge the decision if any of them feel they have been dismissed unfairly.
After that appoint consultants.
Prepare schemes.
Cost.
Value engineer back to budget. Repeatedly.
Submit planning application.
Decide on procurement strategy for appointing contrcators.
Advertise project in European Journal for contractors (any in Europe can submit).
Go through the same process as for consultants.
Get tenders.
Value engineer.
Value engineer.
Redesign.
Appeal against onerous planning conditions/refusal.
Value engineer redesign.
Talk to favoured contractor.
Redesign.
Argue for a year over costs of 'provisional' items.
Start on site.
Discover asbestos & other contaminants in ground.
Stop job.
Notify HSE (14 days each time).
Remove contaminants.
Value engineer as already over budget.
Contractor goes into liquidation.
Retender.
Repeat above.
Appoint new contractor.
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Complete in 2020 with the popular side only half covered & portakbins for a hotel.'"
All of that. But then again Yorkshire Water won't be running it so it may get done quicker.
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| If they dont have the funding sorted now how do they expect to plug the gap? Havent they exhausted all of the likely sources?
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| Maybe the council are in a win / win situation here, they are seen to be a "good council" by giving the go ahead of OSV. Knowing deep down it will be highly unlikely to happen.
Speaking personally, something similar but far less ambitious than this, should have been undertaken at the time of the last development.
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| Quote: Steam Pig "Maybe the council are in a win / win situation here, they are seen to be a "good council" by giving the go ahead of OSV. Knowing deep down it will be highly unlikely to happen.
Speaking personally, something similar but far less ambitious than this, should have been undertaken at the time of the last development.'"
The council gave the go-ahead ( and planning permission ) for the Sterling Capital scheme and have been pilloried by Bulls fans ever since National Goverment put an end to the scheme.
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| Quote: Cibaman "If they dont have the funding sorted now how do they expect to plug the gap? Havent they exhausted all of the likely sources?'"
Its a bit silly tbh, the more i look at it the more it looks like a pipe dream, the cheaper scheme was far more likely to succeed.
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| I think it will get built.
But it will be at least 5 years from now, and cost at least 15 million more.
They'll muck it up it that much that any chance of a similar scheme happening in Keighley will be reduced from a 1% chance to 0%
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| Quote: aj cougar "I think it will get built.
But it will be at least 5 years from now, and cost at least 15 million more.
They'll muck it up it that much that any chance of a similar scheme happening in Keighley will be reduced from a 1% chance to 0%'"
What's wrong with the Cougardome?
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| Quote: aj cougar "I think it will get built.
But it will be at least 5 years from now, and cost at least 15 million more.
They'll muck it up it that much that any chance of a similar scheme happening in Keighley will be reduced from a 1% chance to 0%'"
Since Keighley is just part of Bradford anyway, why don't the Cougars use one of the lesser pitches at the side of Odsal?
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| Quote: DILLIGAF "Since Keighley is just part of Bradford anyway, why don't the Cougars use one of the lesser pitches at the side of Odsal?'"
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| Quote: Bullseye "rlrl'"
We're having facilities for fishermen too?
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| Quote: Asim "We're having facilities for fishermen too?'"
Get back to your cricket book!
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| Quote: Bullseye "Get back to your cricket book!'"
I think you meant work, honest!
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| Quote: aj cougar "
But it will be at least 5 years from now, and cost at least 15 million more.
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£15m over budget - is that all ?? It'll be £88.7m unless they avoid VAT ( @ 17.5% ) plus they've admitted this is all "based on a non-complex construction" and not tested in the construction industry.
I think if it only cost £15m more it'd be a remarkable achievement !!
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| Quote: BM "£15m over budget - is that all ?? It'll be £88.7m unless they avoid VAT ( @ 17.5% ) plus they've admitted this is all "based on a non-complex construction" and not tested in the construction industry.
I think if it only cost £15m more it'd be a remarkable achievement !!'"
15%
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| Quote: DILLIGAF "Since Keighley is just part of Bradford anyway, why don't the Cougars use one of the lesser pitches at the side of Odsal?'"
Because we'll have all died by the time it's built.
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