Yeah I think that's right Blotto.

Yes, but just his personal version, which we know from experience can completely gloss over the things you'd want to know, totally ignore or sidestep others, and contain much utter bollox.

Unfortunately your blue sky thinking or any other alternative to a full fixture list does not solve the resulting Blackpool problem.

Whatever the "Blackpool problem" might be, I can guarantee you nobody on here is remotely interested in it.

He was under a cloud throughout. Remember the civil servant who sent an email saying today is a good day to bury bad news? And that day happened to be a certain Sept 11th? That was his dept, and the preceding five months had been about whether he put her up to it or not.

Something rail related did for him but he was toast by that point anyway. It was just the final straw.

The general world view the government had about "out of town" developments came from Prescott though. It would have happened that way anyway once it got called in.

Fwiw, I still blame Byers / government and not Mr Ken.

It's not our problem. But the RFL are using us to solve it.

I for one was absolutely gutted when you went into Liquidation as my previous posts will prove, but reading this latest thread, you Bradford supporters want your cake and eat it, you are very very lucky the RFL haven't said to you, Bradford Bulls no longer exists, if you wish to apply for membership you will start in the National Conference Division Three and work your way back, why should you go in Championship 1 you as a club don't exist, to whinge about being in the Championship with minus 12 points is a joke,the RFL have bent over backwards to help you even in 1962 when you again went into liquidation, as i have said before there is a lot of goodwill towards the Bulls within the Rugby community, this whinging and moaning means it won't last very long.

What part of RAB90's "a one year sit out and start at the bottom would be the most sustainable way forward" don't you understand? Most fans want to start in League One because it has a chance of making the new club stable from the outset which means we won't be sat here in another year's time raking over yet another administration. For "whinging and moaning" read REALISM.

A lot longer than my goodwill for you that's for certain. You live in a bizarre world where starting on minus 12 and with no players is somehow a favour. None of us agree. I'd much rather we reform in the championship 1 in 2018, and leave you holier than thou sods to worry about the fixture list in 2017 and with no ammunition for your eccentric claims of preferential treatment.

I think you need to read some of the posts mate. I think you'll find no Bradford fan wants or expects a free ride. What they are saying is relegation from Championship 1 is possibly better than not being relegated but having a 12 point deduction.

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Just like Toulouse, Toronto, Oxford, Coventry, Hemel, Newcastle, South Wales, North Wales.

You really think being in Championship -12 points with no team is doing us a favour.

Please get a grip.

I'm not sure anyone cares about league position for any reason other than future stability/viability of the club. The best case scenario that I foresee at present is never winning anything ever again, and struggling along in Champ 1 with occasional shortlived forays into the championship. At the moment I'd take that quite happily.

As for starting in NCL 3, the same point applies. It'd kill pro-RL in Bradford permanently. If that is the aim, then fine, but it is disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Frankly, I'm amazed at the number of people who can cope with the cognitive dissonance resulting from holding 'I am sad for Bradford and Rugby League about the Bulls being liquidated and want to see them thrive again' and 'Bradford must be punished and be grateful for it!'.

Why should you be in the Championship 1 that is not the lowest league on the pyramid, i am honestly really gutted this has happened honestly,but what i was trying to say was if the RFL had acted as if you are a totally new club (which you are) you should start at the VERY bottom, I personally wish you all the luck in the World, i actually want you back in Super League asap.

A number of clubs in League 1 were fresh formed and went straight into there without the need to go up through other divisions. Clubs with much less history and more to the point, much less community clubs that feed into them. The whole point about sustaining Pro RL in Bradford is to do with the amount of players that have come through the system in the local area, which the RFL don't want to lose. And understandably considering how many of the recent England squad came via that route.

It's not about "doing favours for Bradford Bulls", it's about the local area and what a pro RL club in the Bradford area offers the sport.

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As per my previous post due to the previous precedent set many times before