Indeed you would expect that. And if they didn't order more on the back of the successful pledge, you would be disappointed and chalk that up to a mistake. Agreed completely.

The point I'm trying to make is that nobody has a clue how many they ordered and yet they're very quick to criticise them over it. Yes you could argue I don't know how many either and therefore shouldn't defend them, but personally I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt, as you've mentioned in your post.

My problem is with people that have no facts about it at all, but will just immediately jump on criticising the club over it. You've come up with a perfectly logical scenario where they could have run out of shirts despite ordering loads, which shows that it's possible. It amazes me that others can't see that possiblity and would prefer to just call them amateurish instead.

Firstly is there any reason you feel the need to swear so much? I'm not sure if you feel this strengthens your argument but other than coming across as a chav you really achieve nothing.

As I've stated before it is not my job to predict the number of shirt sales, however if it was my job and I had failed then I would expect questions to be asked.

I am not saying it is an exact science but basing the figures on previous years season ticket sales should have given a guide + or - a certain percentage. Your example of 2,000 last year and 2,000 this year is fairly ridiculous, if you doubled your sales of season tickets how would you adjust your shirt order? As a very basic adjustment and a starting point before taking into account other factors, family tickets etc?

Anyway hopefully they will get it sorted soon and it won't impact profits too much.

Yeah good point on the small gap between design and release. Maybe if we could get the designs produced earlier (even if a sponsor was still undecided they could still show the designs) there could be an order deadline for shirts so that these people got priority once the shirts were released. Not only would people who ordered be guaranteed a shirt but more importantly it would help with order numbers for the club which is obviously the most important factor.

I know it's not as simple as above but it's something to work on!

I said the exact same in another topic, but every body just lauged

That's cos he is the respected "Big Chris", and you are... "Terrace Singer" (and whoever else). Go figure?

F*ck off




Seriously, we're going round and round in circles here and it's clear nobody's opinion is going to change. Some people think the club have knacked up, some people are more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt in the absence of any facts.

I for one can't really be bothered repeating myself over and over again so will leave it there and agree to disagree on this particular matter.

Well if they'd produced them in traditional hoops with the colours in the right order I might have been bothered.

Funny thing is that it's like hark back to the 80s when we never had enough replica jerseys in. I remember having to wait months for mine back then. There was never any doubt I'd get one though, I just got one later.

Wigan and Uddersfield have all shirts in stock.

Not much use to a Bulls fan though!!

I've been posting on here since the official bulls board was taken downand I've never been so annoyed. I made quite a reasoned and polite post which I thought added to the topic of discussion. In return, I have been insulted by a person who respons using starred expletives and winks.

This used to be a place of genuine discussion. Now its going the same way as the T&A comment boxes. ie, agree with me or I will use offensive language. I think Ive had enuogh.

I apologise to the majority, especially Adey, who althuogh Ive never met him seems a decent bloke who will have a proper discussion, and agree to disagree, but some people on here are downright rude .

They both supplied by Kooga thats why i used them as an example .

doubt theres major demand for wigans current offering tbh and hudds only needed to order a few hundred to ensure all their fans got a shirt