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| Bateman loves the club AFAIK, if we offer him a decent contract he will stay.
Tbh, with the potential he has I'd rather keep hold of Bateman than Langley if we had that choice, although I think its ridiculous these claims of Langers stealing his wage. We all know his injuries, but when he's on the pitch he earns his money.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Bateman loves the club AFAIK, if we offer him a decent contract he will stay.
Tbh, with the potential he has I'd rather keep hold of Bateman than Langley if we had that choice, although I think its ridiculous these claims of Langers stealing his wage. We all know his injuries, but when he's on the pitch he earns his money.'"
Get yourself up to date.
Bateman is already contracted to 2014, so he has agreed to stay and clearly happy with whatever terms he is on.
Langley contracted to 2013. What happens then is for the coach and the club to decide.
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| Quote: bobsmyuncle "Get yourself up to date.
Bateman is already contracted to 2014, so he has agreed to stay and clearly happy with whatever terms he is on.
Langley contracted to 2013. What happens then is for the coach and the club to decide.'"
Bloody hell, can't make a comment on here without you on my back today.
I know Bateman is contracted, I was talking in future terms (and he'll be getting an offer well before 2014 if he continues as he is)
The Langley bit was hypothetical, just a way of comparing the two, as I feel Bateman has the potential to be a star for both the Bulls and England.
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| The difference with Langley is who would take on an injury prone player on the wage he is reputed to be on at the Bulls? And I have no idea what he is on before anyone asks.
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| As has been repeatedly said on here, whatever wage Langley is on, only 50% counts on the cap as he has been here for more than ten years
So all this about how he is taking up valuable cap is a load of guff. In practical terms, unless he is on more than double everyone else, he is actually taking up LESS cap than the other higher earners
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "As has been repeatedly said on here, whatever wage Langley is on, only 50% counts on the cap as he has been here for more than ten years
So all this about how he is taking up valuable cap is a load of guff. In practical terms, unless he is on more than double everyone else, he is actually taking up LESS cap than the other higher earners'"
That doesn't alter what another team would have to match in take home pay though.
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| What happens if he doesn't need to take all his pay home?
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "As has been repeatedly said on here, whatever wage Langley is on, only 50% counts on the cap as he has been here for more than ten years
So all this about how he is taking up valuable cap is a load of guff. In practical terms, unless he is on more than double everyone else, he is actually taking up LESS cap than the other higher earners'"
not quite accurate. 50% or 50k dont count on cap, whichever reduction is smaller counts. so for example if langley was on 90k then his salary cap value would be 45k (50%). If he was on 120k his salary cap value would be 70k (120k-50k).
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| Quote: Adeybull "What happens if he doesn't need to take all his pay home?'"
He gives it to a highly paid accountant to squirrel away & avoid paying tax.
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| Quote: tigertot "He gives it to a highly paid accountant to squirrel away & avoid paying tax.'"
As a [inouveau[/i Olicanan, you must rub shoulders with plenty?
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| Quote: Adeybull "As a [inouveau[/i Olicanan, you must rub shoulders with plenty?'"
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "It won't be long before we need to upgrade Batemans contract if he continues this form into the next few months. Look after him, pay him what he is worth to the team and hopefully he'll return with his loyalty and skills. He is a Dudley Hill lad so hopefully playing for his hometown club will be a big enough attraction for now. Holding onto other young players like Whitehead, Crookes etc that he has come through the ranks will also help. Ultimately we need to be challenging for honours, hopefully in the next couple of years we will be back in the mix.'"
I agree, he is already contracted, but he seems to want to be here so an upgrade andf extension could be offered well before the end of his current deal. We've just announced Whitehead, so it looks like we could have a group of Bradford developed youngsters signed up for the next few years that could form a core of the team similar to how Leeds have done it. Whitehead, Bateman, Addy, Olbison, Crookes, Kopczak, Burgess.
Looks promising to me.
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| This Bateman to Warrington rumour sounds like a recycled version of what was going around when he signed for us in the first place when he was offered a massive signing on fee and a motor IIRC (he'd even have been too young to drive it!).
As it was he took less to go to his hometown club and and the club he supports. I suspect if we look after him (and I've no reason to suspect we aren't) he'll follow Whitehead's lead and stay.
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| Quote: Bullseye "This Bateman to Warrington rumour sounds like a recycled version of what was going around when he signed for us in the first place when he was offered a massive signing on fee and a motor IIRC (he'd even have been too young to drive it!).
As it was he took less to go to his hometown club and and the club he supports. I suspect if we look after him (and I've no reason to suspect we aren't) he'll follow Whitehead's lead and stay.'"
I thought that was implied in Whitehead's words in the T&A article.
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| Hope he stays with the Bulls. Clubs have really changed their views with respect to young British players, and its good to see. In the end its the only way to build a side nowadays. The reduction in quick fix Aussies of any quality is clearly impacting right across the league.
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