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| Oh no. Someone has moved away from Bradford and has picked up a few local phrases. BURN THE WITCH!!!!
Sorry, with it being Halloween I've been channelling the spirit of the Witchfinder General Matthew Hopkins.
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| Quote: Gurus_Beard "icon_lol.gif
yes i am, whats so funny about that?
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755_1290430740.jpg “At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22
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| Quote: PhilBulls "yes i am, whats so funny about that?'"
That's well funny, in a random way.
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| Quote: tigertot "That's well funny, in a random way.'"
This is the reason people dont post, i've read it a lot on the bradfordsbulls.co.uk forum.
You just drive people away.
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| Quote: PhilBulls "...snip ...... You just drive people away.'"
Tigertot??? Taxi driver doesn't sound like the professional occupation that one would associate with someone from the upper echelons of public society in Ilkley. You been keeping something in the closest?
PhilBulls Don't sweat it mate. I'm positive no, none humorous, personal dig was meant.
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"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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| Quote: PhilBulls "This is the reason people dont post, i've read it a lot on the bradfordsbulls.co.uk forum.
You just drive people away.'"
You must be confusing me with someone equally hilarious who posts on there. I suspect the sardonic Leeds postman.
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| Quote: Bullpower "
Tigertot??? Taxi driver doesn't sound like the professional occupation that one would associate with someone from the upper echelons of public society in Ilkley. You been keeping something in the closest?
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[sizeI don't even own a car[/size.
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| The most worrying thing to eminate from Sam is not his accent but his comment that he is training a lot harder and for longer in Oz than when he was in the UK.
It may be that he's just trying to flatter the locals, but if its true it is fairly damning. I thought the point of having such a strong Australian influence in SL was that we benefit from their methods? We're supposedly paying the players more than they get in Oz, there are enough Australian coaches over here, even if not recently at the Bulls, for the message to have spread. So why should training regimes be noticeably different?
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| Wigan certainly looked fitter and faster than us this year suggesting their training went up a gear under McGuire.
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| Excellent point - and yes, worrying.
Maybe the earlier return to training reflects a recognition of this by the Bulls coaching staff?
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| Quote: Bullseye "Wigan certainly looked fitter and faster than us this year suggesting their training went up a gear under McGuire.'"
Without doubt and speaking to anyone at the club, players or officials repeatedly reinforces that; along with the internal discipline. But it's not just about fitness.
Phil Clarke identified some time ago that the advanced individual skill (and fitness) levels of every player, in every position, in the NRL is the primary reason for the gulf in class (along with the obvious pool of talent etc). Watching a Tony Peletua, Ali Lauititi and Louis Anderson highlights the very skill concept we continue to ignore for our very own players. It's put down to inate "freak" ability or "natural", but is it? Watching a number of NRL players repeatedly over the years suggests it's been, and is being, worked on continually and extensively.
Only 17 players can take the field at any one time but even our best 17 has nothing like the skill level in intense games to compete with Oz or NZ. Not even close. As Clarke said, clubs need to invest heavily in player skill development at all levels, in every playing position if International rugby is to have any future or value. The international post mortem will continue, but it will likely paper over the cracks.
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| Quote: Gurus_Beard "Without doubt and speaking to anyone at the club, players or officials repeatedly reinforces that; along with the internal discipline. But it's not just about fitness.
Phil Clarke identified some time ago that the advanced individual skill (and fitness) levels of every player, in every position, in the NRL is the primary reason for the gulf in class (along with the obvious pool of talent etc). Watching a Tony Peletua, Ali Lauititi and Louis Anderson highlights the very skill concept we continue to ignore for our very own players. It's put down to inate "freak" ability or "natural", but is it? Watching a number of NRL players repeatedly over the years suggests it's been, and is being, worked on continually and extensively.
Only 17 players can take the field at any one time but even our best 17 has nothing like the skill level in intense games to compete with Oz or NZ. Not even close. As Clarke said, clubs need to invest heavily in player skill development at all levels, in every playing position if International rugby is to have any future or value. The international post mortem will continue, but it will likely paper over the cracks.'"
That all makes sense to me.
What worries me is where do the teachers come from? In the NRL they have the big - and skilled -talent pool, and no doubt everyone feeds off each other - especially the younger players, as Sam no doubt is finding. We have a handful of Aussie/NZ coaches and a handful of senior imports ready willing and able to mentor the youngsters. Is that enough critical mass? Do we have enough home-grown coaching/playing talent to develop the skills in others?
The necessary investment in player development skills efectively means investment in the skilled people to teach those skills. What practical steps do you reckon UK clubs need to take (apart from somehow finding more money to spend on top-quality coaching staff, which those without a sugar daddy will struggle to do) to resolve the problem? Whenever I think about this, it keeps coming back to money and a perceived need (especially with franchise renewals looming) to prioritise short-term performance.
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| It always seems to come down to money and spending it in the right areas.
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| I'd like to draw an analogy between the great Bulls teams of recent years and the poor ones of late.
The great teams seemed to perform when the chips were down. The poor ones seem to go to pieces and make catalogues of errors.
The great teams could go long spells without failing to complete a set of six and finish it with a good play or kick. With the poor teams, you are just waiting, all the time, expecting a schoolboy error, and you aren't often disappointed, with the ball being coughed up even on the first tackle with monotonous regularity.
I guess it boils down to whether you can bring your 'A' game to the table when up against an opponent you know is better than you on paper, or whether you crumble with nerves and an inferiority complex.
During the NFL game at Wembley, one of the commentators was talking about a particular player failing to make a catch, and he said that at that level (ie the top gridiron level) the margin for errors is so small. Basically, you just can't afford to make them. That is, not in practice, but when the chips are down, can you hold yourself together and make the plays, time after time.
That, to me, is the essential difference, but I'm not sure just how it can be coached. I am sure that playing in a pressure cooker most weeks is one way of sorting out the players who can, and those who crumble, but we don't have that to anywhere the same extent.
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