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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "What's the story? I know players aren't supposed to bet on games they are involved in but if I were a Bulls player and got wind we were playing a reserve team at the weekend, and could get a decent bet on myself for my team to win, then I would and can't actually see much problem at all with players backing themselves to beat their opponents.
Players betting on their own team to LOSE is of course an entirely different kettle of fish, and even if the Bulls did put money on themselves to WIN, to me that's not even remotely comparable as an offence.
(And yes I know it's not on, due to match-fixing allegations etc but I'm just commenting on that particular match; if the Bulls players got wind of something before the bookies, then tough luck bookies.)'"
I thought that betting on your team to win was ok? I can't see what is wrong with that.
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| This sickens me to the pit of my stomach. Serialising it in the Scum.
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| [iMore revelations are expected in the book, which is officially published on Monday, and a spokesman for the RFL said the governing body were waiting for an opportunity to read a copy before making any comment.[/i
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "I thought that betting on your team to win was ok? I can't see what is wrong with that.'"
Even if it's a fixed match of which you already know the outcome?
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "I thought that betting on your team to win was ok? I can't see what is wrong with that.'"
They all seem to have been gambling on a specific margin of victory e.g. more than 9 points in Long's case; so could be seen to adversely affect the "natural" result of the game - even if they are on the winning team and the outcome is no different.
its the same as insider trading.
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| The Bulls players concerned are all at other clubs now.
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "I thought that betting on your team to win was ok? I can't see what is wrong with that.'"
A bit less straightforward if spread betting's involved though.
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| Quote: saints35 bulls0 "They all seem to have been gambling on a specific margin of victory e.g. more than 9 points in Long's case; so could be seen to adversely affect the "natural" result of the game - even if they are on the winning team and the outcome is no different.
its the same as insider trading.'"
Ahh well that changes things.
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| Quote: Clearwing "A bit less straightforward if spread betting's involved though.'"
Ditto
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| In the sun today , a few extracts -
" Extra-careful ones got mates to stick the money on. Even bradford got wind of the c**p side and loads of them were on"
" the following afternoon, a very excited glees rang to say he'd got the bet on the saints to lose be at least nine points "
"the odds were 10-11 and glees stuck a grand on to win £1909, including the stake"
"if we'd had any brains ,we'd have put it on a spread bet where you punt per point and we'd have made more money.
If we had any brains we wouldnt have opened telephone accounts to place bets against our own team"
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| Quote: Roofaldo "I do hope Mr Long can prove his allegations. If not, I think he might be on his way to court'"
He hasn't named anyone except Gleeson, who was duly charged and banned for a while, so there is no case to answer.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "He hasn't named anyone except Gleeson, who was duly charged and banned for a while, so there is no case to answer.'"
I very much doubt they'd bother with it, as we all know he's just selling his book even if it is in a rather unsavoury way, but of course there is technically a "case to answer", as the Bulls club is potentially being defamed, and it has every right to sue for defamation quite apart from what any individuals might want to do, if the board thinks its reputation is being damaged.
A trading company with a trading reputation in England can win libel damages without the need to show that it has suffered any particualr damage, if the libel tends to damage it in the way of its business.
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| "We refute all such allegations," Bradford's football manager Stuart Duffy said. "We certainly weren't aware of any at the time and we've no proof that any of our lads were involved."
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I very much doubt they'd bother with it, as we all know he's just selling his book even if it is in a rather unsavoury way, but of course there is technically a "case to answer", as the Bulls club is potentially being defamed, and it has every right to sue for defamation quite apart from what any individuals'"
He isn't suggesting the club did anything. I don't see how the club could even potentially be defamed. Longy refers to players, not the club. All the club needs to do is deny all knowledge.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "He isn't suggesting the club did anything. I don't see how the club could even potentially be defamed. Longy refers to players, not the club. '"
Quote: SaintsFan "bradford got wind of the c**p side and loads of them were on'"
If you don't see how alleging "loads of" its senior players gamble on the club's results potentially damages the good name and reputation of the club, then that's your problem. I reckon you're just being dumb.
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