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| It might sound silly but does Liquidation mean that they will be selling the trophies?
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| Quote: rugbyreddog "It might sound silly but does Liquidation mean that they will be selling the trophies?'"
Huddersfield will buy them, only chance they have of getting any silverware.
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| Quote: rugbyreddog "It might sound silly but does Liquidation mean that they will be selling the trophies?'"
Wouldn't be surprised if Green had already sold em.
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| I can't help but feel the RFL will favour someone who wants to develop a stadium at Odsal, they would be mad not to.
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| Quote: RickyF1 "I can't help but feel the RFL will favour someone who wants to develop a stadium at Odsal, they would be mad not to.'"
Isnt that easier said than done? The RFL only own the lease, not the freehold which is owned by the Council. I dont know what restrictions that there are in the lease regarding development of the ground, but surely it would need the agreement of the Council? And we've seen from the recent past that obtaining planning permission for re-development of the stadium isn't straightforward. Otherwise we would have had a shiny new stadium circa 2003.
So, the RFL might want to favour the someone who will re-develop the stadium in the sense of building new stands, covering the terraces etc. But I cant see how that would be viable for a new owner, without them also having the right to develop the surrounding area, build a hotel, superstore etc. And a potential buyer would not know now whether that would be approved.
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| Quote: RickyF1 "Wouldn't be surprised if Green had already sold em.'"
The Championship Shield was in Cash Converters 20min after the Bulls won it.
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755_1290430740.jpg “At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22
"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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| Quote: ridlerbull "I'm starting to think that Lamb is a bit of a pillock. Anyone in bed with Gledhill demands my derision.'"
They’d also demand a bit more room if they were in bed with Mick.
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21910.gif [u:b26ka63j][size=150:b26ka63j][color=black:b26ka63j][b:b26ka63j]I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying.
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| Quote: Cibaman "Isnt that easier said than done? The RFL only own the lease, not the freehold which is owned by the Council. I dont know what restrictions that there are in the lease regarding development of the ground, but surely it would need the agreement of the Council? And we've seen from the recent past that obtaining planning permission for re-development of the stadium isn't straightforward. Otherwise we would have had a shiny new stadium circa 2003.
So, the RFL might want to favour the someone who will re-develop the stadium in the sense of building new stands, covering the terraces etc. But I cant see how that would be viable for a new owner, without them also having the right to develop the surrounding area, build a hotel, superstore etc. And a potential buyer would not know now whether that would be approved.'"
The council granted planning permission in 2002 Mr Morrison appealed this decision to Mr Byers who was secretary of state for transport and local government who then called the proposal in for public enquirey.
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| Agree with the vast majority on here that a one year sit out and start at the bottom would be the most sustainable way forward for (semi) pro RL in Bradford. But at the moment the people making the decisions are the RFL and as I see it they have two main objectives;
1) fulfill fixtures
2) get out of their odsall lease as it's now a liability with no sub tenant
With the councils buy in for development the best way for RFL to fulfil the above objectives would be to sell odsal to a developer at market value less the cost of fielding a semi pro league team for a year.
The thing that terrifies me about the above is that a developer couldn't give a t0ss about 'Bradford Phoenix' and will happily run it on a shoestring, see them get walloped week in week out, relegated and then sell the club for a quid at the end of the season.
Whilst this gets us to the exact same place as starting 2018 in C1 it will see a further season of fans leaving the club as no one wants to watch their team get mullered week in week out.
FWIW an alternative for the RFL to the above could be to form a barbarians team full of loans and lads playing for contracts - only have to play every other week, don't need home games, and points don't count to the league just exhibition games. Blue sky thinking I know, just trying to think of a scenario other than not winning a game all year.
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| Took Bomgser a day and a half to catch up on this and the previous behemoth thread. But all he can say after reading all of the above is that he's gutted for Bradford's fans, staff and what are left of the players. Looks very bleak but best of luck you Phoenixes.
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13554.jpg The phrase politically correct is in itself politcally incorrect so should be rephrased politically stupid!
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Statistically speaking you have a better chance of getting dead the older you get!
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| Quote: tigertot "They’d also demand a bit more room if they were in bed with Mick.'"
This could be intriguing............................. do tell!
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13554.jpg The phrase politically correct is in itself politcally incorrect so should be rephrased politically stupid!
If you like old type radio comedy/ dramas etc listen to //pumpkinfm.com/
Statistically speaking you have a better chance of getting dead the older you get!
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| Quote: redeverready "The council granted planning permission in 2002 Mr Morrison appealed this decision to Mr Byers who was secretary of state for transport and local government who then called the proposal in for public enquirey.'"
Didn't Byers leave his post under a cloud not after? not saying that was part of the reason but I always wondered................
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| Yeah I think that's right Blotto.
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| Quote: rugbyreddog "Does the Administrator produce a report on what went on?'"
Yes, but just his personal version, which we know from experience can completely gloss over the things you'd want to know, totally ignore or sidestep others, and contain much utter bollox.
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| Quote: RAB90 "Agree with the vast majority on here that a one year sit out and start at the bottom would be the most sustainable way forward for (semi) pro RL in Bradford. But at the moment the people making the decisions are the RFL and as I see it they have two main objectives;
1) fulfill fixtures
2) get out of their odsall lease as it's now a liability with no sub tenant
With the councils buy in for development the best way for RFL to fulfil the above objectives would be to sell odsal to a developer at market value less the cost of fielding a semi pro league team for a year.
The thing that terrifies me about the above is that a developer couldn't give a t0ss about 'Bradford Phoenix' and will happily run it on a shoestring, see them get walloped week in week out, relegated and then sell the club for a quid at the end of the season.
Whilst this gets us to the exact same place as starting 2018 in C1 it will see a further season of fans leaving the club as no one wants to watch their team get mullered week in week out.
FWIW an alternative for the RFL to the above could be to form a barbarians team full of loans and lads playing for contracts - only have to play every other week, don't need home games, and points don't count to the league just exhibition games. Blue sky thinking I know, just trying to think of a scenario other than not winning a game all year.'"
Unfortunately your blue sky thinking or any other alternative to a full fixture list does not solve the resulting Blackpool problem.
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