I love the fact that, according to some, Crookes lifted his own legs above the horizontal. In that case, Seymour must have punched himself in the face too.

Moving on from the Seymour tackle as it is boring now I think the issue with the sin binning was

- tackle wasnt complete
- Thaler THOUGHT it was
- called held/move (cant remember now as I watched it late last night), BJ didnt hear probably due to applause from stand at chase back to prevent try on international winger from a hooker
- as Thaler thought tackle complete & then in his opinon BJ was committing prof foul to slow play down he felt he had no option

Issue hear, I believe, Thaler thought it was complete, BJ saw it wasnt and may not have heard shout so basically two different interpretations will never same common ground found

Penalty was the correct call, it was a technical foul but no malcious intent, and ultimately he landed on his back. The calls from Bradford fans for a sending off where nothing short of desperation. It was nowhere near.

Throwing punches on the floor is nothing short of cowardly malicious play. We saw Radford red carded for it last season. This is where Thaler made a complete joke of himself as he hadn't awarded the penalty and then went back to it because of the punches, looked at it again and awarded the penalty against Seymour, effectively awarding Bradford for punching a player on the floor.

What a beautifully unbiased interpretation of the incident.

Crookes will be ok will an early guilty plea (see Paul Wood). You get a match ban for glancing a players head with your forearm though with barely if any contact, just ask Jarrod Sammut.

It wasn't just punches thrown, Crookes headbutted Seymour straight after the incident, before he threw the punches.

When the ref shouts the tackle number followed by MOVE it's always best not to go in afterwards and push the guy over the touch line. That way you don't risk getting sin binned especially if there's been a clear break and the attacking team and the professional foul option is in play.

This. Bulls fans are viewing it as way more serious than it was. Hull fans are suggesting it was a great tackle. Neither are right imo.

He also managed to chat up his sister, upset his mother and kick his dog.

When BJ came in and had a second go on sky you can hear Thaler saying held before BJ makes contact so sin bin was to letter of the law. The spear was bad but quick thinking from bradford player stopped him getting injured but at same time saved Hull player from getting a more serious punishment on the field. He tucked his body up when going down so that he landed flat on his back instead of his head. What he did was probably the better as game was over already and even a man off wouldn't have helped bulls at this point and they have lost player for a long time if he landed on his neck.

Quite clearly has hold of Crookes' legs.




Hmmm, he landed flat on his back, not at all dangerous????

Hope these Hull fans haven't disappeared for good, lets see them use their 'didn't touch his legs' or 'he landed flat on his back' ones now.

Im a Hull fan. And I thought although not with intent... was a bit dangerous at first and I expected it to be put on report... But once I saw the replay, they did realize and tried to corrected it (So I can see it from both sides) WELL PLAYED! By the way... (Sorry I've got a friend who's a Bulls fan and couldn't resist another dig... LMAO)

Heard any news/rumors on players leaving or staying still... (Bateman/Whithead and so on...)

ARE YOU CONFIDENT OF THEM STAYING OR NOT...