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Quote: mat "no we cant. have a look at post I made on page 2 of this thread for a breakdown of how our quota and non fed trained spots are filled.'"

whos on the non fed trained?

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Quote: pulsator2k7 "Oh yeah Sharp world class signing right there sharp is the best winger in the game what are you laughing about ?
heck nrl teams were queing up to sign him...but no hull beat them all of to get his prized signature.
well done , must have been to learn from the master coach that is richard agar

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Quote: sir steve menzies "whos on the non fed trained?'"

kearney
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lulia
ah van (if re-signed)

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Quote: sir steve menzies "if hull can fiddle their way into having a full forward pack of overseas players im sure we can work him off the quota'"



Fiddle you have only one less overseas players as us?.

Difference is that we have better quality imports than you, which can be seem from the Exiles game, in which we had 3 starting.

Also we had one youngster we have brought through in the England squad.

2 players in the under 18's squad and 5 in the England under 16's team.

Hull IMO have 2 imports that are poor in Phelps and Lauaki, Obst is Ok the other 4 are top quality.

Bradford have 2 quality imports in L'Estrange and Kearney, the rest are average.

I have been impressed with some of the early signs of the Bradford youngsters, be interesting if they would get a game if all your players are fit.

One thing I do agree on is thats that Heremaia is a pointless signing for Hull, unless we release Obst.

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Quote: mat "kearney
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And Herbert (if re-signed)

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Quote: sir steve menzies "if hull can fiddle their way into having a full forward pack of overseas players im sure we can work him off the quota'"

icon_frustrated.gif What nationality are Danny Houghton, Joe Westerman, Danny Tickle, Ewan Dowes and Lee Radford? eusa_think.gif

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Quote: pulsator2k7 "Oh yeah Sharp world class signing right there All this and we're still above you in the table. What does it say about you? icon_eek.gif

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Quote: sir steve menzies "right and you brought in sam obst LOL
and cameron phelps....
2 absolute awful players so ye i woudl think bout stuff beofre you start arguing.
you have so many overseas players its unbelievable..and yes you brought through houghton......you did what warrington do buy buying westerman because your younger players just arent coming through'"

When we signed Obst, the Wakefield fans were gutted they lost him instead of Jefferies - Obst isn't an amazing signing but he's better than Ben Jefferies. Similarly Phelps, he isn't amazing but at least he got a game in the NRL and the SL Champions whereas Shad Royston could only get a game in the the Championship until you signed him.

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Wonder where he stands on the 'mince-o-meter'? and how long it will take him to get on it - about half a game?

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Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "All this and we're still above you in the table. What does it say about you?
Yes above us in the table by 1 whole point - what does this say about you ??

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Quote: pulsator2k7 "Yes above us in the table by 1 whole point - what does this say about you ??'"

We have a terrible coach.

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Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "We have a terrible coach.'"


But as most of you FC fans are stating your squad is alot better than ours, so regardless of your coach, if you players are much better then why only the 1 ahead of us ??

PS. Your points diff doesnt mean you are good at attacking just means we have been very poor defensively - but that being said your results arnt much better than ours based on pionts, so how do you establish that your team is better ??

Or is that just your OPINION

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Quote: pulsator2k7 "But as most of you FC fans are stating your squad is alot better than ours, so regardless of your coach, if you players are much better then why only the 1 ahead of us ??

PS. Your points diff doesnt mean you are good at attacking just means we have been very poor defensively - but that being said your results arnt much better than ours based on pionts, so how do you establish that your team is better ??

Or is that just your OPINION'"

Ofcourse it is my opinion eusa_shifty.gif. However, it is backed up by a few facts. We have scored my points than you. FACT. We have conceded less points than you. FACT. We have more competition points than you. FACT. It is the opinion of others that our overseas players are of a greater calibre than yours. FACT.

On paper, our team is so much better than yours. That is my opinion. Do you not feel the head coach makes much difference?

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Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "On paper, our team is so much better than yours. That is my opinion. Do you not feel the head coach makes much difference?'"


Im not saying they dont make a difference when clearly they do, not aiming this at yourself as i know a few FC who want Agars head and their decision will not change however, there is alot of fickle FC fans who want him out one minute then when you have afew wins they say well maybe he should be given another go.....................

But mainly i believe (which is just my opinion) that it is down to the players and their attitude to the game, because once they are out on the park if they revert from the game plan there isnt much the coach can do !!!

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Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW " It is the opinion of others that our overseas players are of a greater calibre than yours. FACT. '"


that's ace!

when I'm stating facts next time I'll use that.

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