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| Quote: debaser "Oh sounds good. So what is the likely outcome? A few million in compensation would do for starters please...
Or as a gesture of goodwill by the RFL, Keith Mason with nothing counting toward the salary cap
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| Further evidence emerged today in the form of CCTV footage of Thewlis and Davy picking up the player outside Tong on the morning of 4th August. A still is shown below...
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "Further evidence emerged today in the form of CCTV footage of Thewlis and Davy picking up the player outside Tong on the morning of 4th August. A still is shown below...
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| Quote: Bulliac "I'm pretty sure FA, that the £20K was for breaching the "gentlemen's agreement" made to prevent any 'poaching' of the players after the admin was announced, and absolutely nothing at all to do with the entirely separate issue concerning rules about approaching contracted players.'"
Well, I suspected that, but when I thought about it, I couldn't recall it ever having been explained what it was for. So I did some digging (not that much, tbf) but haven't been able to find anything which states what it was for.
AFAIR, it was just a deal for effectively our agreement to transfer the registration, which we presumably agreed to. One could be forgiven for presuming that we only agreed to it perhaps after having been tipped the wink that no breaches were going to be found proved, but of course that would be pure speculation.
Anyway, a seeming penalty for a breach of RFL agreements or protocols etc would sort of be by way of a "fine", and surely any such are paid to RFL, not to a club?
Can anyone find a link to any report that confirms what the £20K was actually for, specifically?
I of course entirely agree that the "illegal approach" thing is an entirely separate issue. As are donkeys, though I wouldn't fancy being one at Scarborough this week ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Can anyone find a link to any report that confirms what the £20K was actually for, specifically?'"
I think this is the only reference found to the 20k
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "Further evidence emerged today in the form of CCTV footage of Thewlis and Davy picking up the player outside Tong on the morning of 4th August. A still is shown below...
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Maybe Ken is saying to Thewlis "This is another fine mess youv`e got me into"
Seriously I`m sure I read somewhere that Masons £167 thou would count against their salary cap for 3 years. If by Thewlis`s statement that they were sailing close to the salary cap anyway this year how does adding £55 thou onto it affect them? They could be in breach of salary cap rules as well as lying to the governing body!!! We shall see what teeth the RL have, but I won`t hold my breath, if it had have been us they would be points deduction and further loss of Sky money no doubt.
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| Quote: ifallwerelikemumby "Maybe Ken is saying to Thewlis "This is another fine mess youv`e got me into"
Seriously I`m sure I read somewhere that Masons £167 thou would count against their salary cap for 3 years. If by Thewlis`s statement that they were sailing close to the salary cap anyway this year how does adding £55 thou onto it affect them? They could be in breach of salary cap rules as well as lying to the governing body!!! We shall see what teeth the RL have, but I won`t hold my breath, if it had have been us they would be points deduction and further loss of Sky money no doubt.'"
You possibly read it on here (RLFANS), apparently it doesn't according to the rlRFL.rl
It was Mason's lawyer I believe that claimed the Giants would be close to the cap if they kept Mason, which is why he was claiming they got shut. Since that point though they have lost Eden (who was on an improved contract that I daren't guess the value of considering Mason was on £95k) and Luke O'Donnell who was probably one of, if not the, highest earner at the Giants.
It will be very interesting to see exactly what aspects the RFL are going to investigate, considering compensation has already changed hands? I think the question remains what exactly that £20k was for.
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| Quote: debaser "The one thing that stand out for me in all this is...
£95,000 a year for Mason!
That's the biggest crime of all. He's stolen a wage everywhere he has landed. This will further add to his already massively over-inflated ego.
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| Quote: Ginger_Giant "It will be very interesting to see exactly what aspects the RFL are going to investigate, considering compensation has already changed hands? I think the question remains what exactly that £20k was for.'"
The reason for the 20K has been outlined on this thread - I suggest you read them.
The RFL have at least two issues to consider.
1. If the Huddersfield representatives under questioning by a RFL official had told the truth about the recruitment of
Kopczak - would they have agreed with the BUll's case that a transfer fee was due and how much would they
have awarded
2. If the Huddersfield representatives did lie to the RFL official, as they appear to have admitted in the high court,
The RFL will take a view on the seriousness of those representatives telling lies to the RFL. both personally and
on behalf of the club
The credibility of the RFL as a governing body is at stake.
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| Interesting reading this post and I hope Hudds get there just rewards,
Do you guys remember a player called Harris who played for the Bulls?
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| Quote: Tingley Rhino "Interesting reading this post and I hope Hudds get there just rewards,
Do you guys remember a player called Harris who played for the Bulls?'"
Yeah I always liked Ben.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Yeah I always liked Ben.'"
Yeah, remember him. Super player, though he got a few brickbats from some fans about his attacking capabilities, he was second only to the immortal Scott Naylor as a reliable defender and the sort of player I'd have in my teams every time.
Think he went back to play in the NRL, didn't he?
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| I'm pretty sure Ben Harris had to/chose to retire didn't he?
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| I`m sure he went back and played for the Cowboys. I know he did because he played in the first serious match at the Titans new stadium for the Cowboys. I was there.
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| He played two seasons back in NRL for NQC but missed a lot of game through injuries and eventually retired due to them
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