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If only you knew just how wrong you were in almost everything you said re FA above, right from the first few words!

Not being clever; just factual. As one day you might discover for yourself.

And FA ALWAYS has the last word - you really had better believe it! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I think that provided the fans like the look of the team we look like being able to put out, plenty will be well disposed to getting a season ticket paying same as what they paid last year. Because the fact so frequently overlooked is that for most fans, that price was [Pledge price] + [£100 Panic Pledge] - the net result was that in fact basically hardly anybody [iended up[/i having a particularly cheap season ticket, as it happened, and the point was that of course they were able to afford it, [iand[/i decided the extra £100 was a worthwhile use of their limited resources.

For the centre stand and Club members, I fully expect that the 2013 prices assuming we are in SL will actually be cheaper than the sum of what we all ended up paying last season.

Add to that the fact that, just at the moment, there is definitely a siege mentality behind the fans, who have been brilliant in supporting the team and the club, and OKB will benefit from that. I don't think the fans who have committed so stoically to keeping the club alive in 2012 are at all likely to then not get a ticket for SL 2013. That's just IMHO, but that's certainly how I feel.'"


I know the volume of support was great, the numbers travelling away was extremely good and there was a great bond between the fans and the players and coaching staff. But how many people were actually turning up at Odsal towards the end of the season? The actual crowds, as opposed to the announced attendances, didnt appear to be particularly large. And most of them were season ticket holders that had bought cheap tickets and might as well use them.

Similarly how many actually pledged, accepting that quite a few pledgers also donated on behalf of other members of their family?

I think it would be dangerous for OKB to plan on the basis that they would sell more than 5,000 full priced season tickets, particularly if the squad is weakened by departures.

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Quote: Adeybull "If only you knew just how wrong you were in almost everything you said re FA above, right from the first few words!

Not being clever; just factual. As one day you might discover for yourself.

And FA ALWAYS has the last word - you really had better believe it!
I have read about these teenage crushes. This one you have for FA is a humdinger (is that the sort of word you kids use?). You probably think it is the real thing. But look at your gushing prose.


And that last line!

Does he really ALWAYS have the last word? Had I better believe it? icon_eek.gif You make FA sound masterful. icon_wink.gif

I am breathless with anticipation at your next missive. I really am.

( I still believe that 'many people thinking so' is not meaningful evidence of the RFL have been slow, sorry about that. icon_biggrin.gif )

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Quote: Cripesginger "Oh dear little man. You really do need to try and have a last word don't you? '"

There you go again, your feelings of inadequacy are a bit worrying. But no, I don't. I choose to reply to some posts, and it's a ssimple as that. You seem to be ignorant of the fact that by saying I "need to try to have the last word", you reveal only that you are miffed that your last post aimed at me wasn't "the last word".This is clear evidence ( icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Cripesginger "I have read about these teenage crushes. This one you have for FA is a humdinger '"


Now you are making yourself look, like, totally stupid. Everyone knows Adey hearts Justin Bieber. (Adey - he's a teenage pop star to save you googling it).

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Curses. Cover blown. Now the buggers will expect me to buy the bloody club out of my small change.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "There you go again, your feelings of inadequacy are a bit worrying. But no, I don't. I choose to reply to some posts, and it's a ssimple as that. You seem to be ignorant of the fact that by saying I "need to try to have the last word", you reveal only that you are miffed that your last post aimed at me wasn't "the last word".This is clear evidence ( icon_wink.gif

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If this thread degenerates further into pompous pi55 taking any further I'll be forced to do some work editing and frankly I don't have the time.

In dshort please stay on topic.

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Quote: Cripesginger "I agree that a process usually taking months should not be rushed AND great care should be taken to ensure standards are fair for all.

So we can agree that expecting the RFL to create the new standards in under 3 weeks is foolish.

so RFL are not necessarily slow on this important issue.'"


So despite that they have known for 3 weeks and could reasonably have expected this for longer (in fact since the Bulls went into admin in late June), they still have no announced process for deciding this and have admitted as much.

"The RFL said its board will make a decision on how it will determine which competition the Bulls will be playing in by the end of this week, but it is not clear when a final decision will be made."
rlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/9925200.Bradford_Bulls_ace_Kearney__We_feel_totally_hamstrung/rl

In fact they already have rules for deciding who's in SL, it's called the licensing criteria and the problem wasn't that those are necessarily wrong it's that the Bull's management failed to stick to them and failed financially. If they wanted to announce a mini licensing based on the existing criteria (which is good enough for every other club in SL) then there is no reason they couldn't have done this immediately after ratifying the Bulls RFL membership.

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Quote: Bullseye "If this thread degenerates further into pompous pi55 taking any further I'll be forced to do some work editing and frankly I don't have the time.

In dshort please stay on topic.'"

Please don't Bullseye. I was going to put another a troll on ignore but I'm glad I didn't - I'm really enjoying this one, (s)he really is just too funny for words, just like a kelly in a budgie's cage, it gets knocked down and, oh cripes, it just bounces up again!!

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Quote: Bulliac "Please don't Bullseye. I was going to put another a troll on ignore but I'm glad I didn't - I'm really enjoying this one, (s)he really is just too funny for words, just like a kelly in a budgie's cage, it gets knocked down and, of cripes, it just bounces up again!!'"


And I DID try to warn it that it was likely to get a good 'Varking (which I was looking forward to)...you all saw that I DID try? Hardly our fault if it would not listen?

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So have we concluded just why the RFL are dragging this out so long?

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probably because in the background they are checking to see if Fev, Fax or Leigh can put together a credible package to bid for a mini licence.....no point having a process if the 3 teams mentioned can't put together a bid. If they can't an SL clubs want a 14 team league then the Bulls are in, if they can then the RFL have at least gone down the route of appearing to make it look like there is a fair process for teams to gain entry to SL before they then decide that the Bulls have the best bid

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Quote: childofthenorthern "So despite that they have known for 3 weeks and could reasonably have expected this for longer (in fact since the Bulls went into admin in late June), they still have no announced process for deciding this and have admitted as much.

"The RFL said its board will make a decision on how it will determine which competition the Bulls will be playing in by the end of this week, but it is not clear when a final decision will be made."
rlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/9925200.Bradford_Bulls_ace_Kearney__We_feel_totally_hamstrung/rl

In fact they already have rules for deciding who's in SL, it's called the licensing criteria and the problem wasn't that those are necessarily wrong it's that the Bull's management failed to stick to them and failed financially. If they wanted to announce a mini licensing based on the existing criteria (which is good enough for every other club in SL) then there is no reason they couldn't have done this immediately after ratifying the Bulls RFL membership.'"



I explained earlier that the criteria and the assessment used in 2011 did fail. And that those criteria were based on 3 year cycle and the 'new' club was to be promoted from the championship. Now we have a shorter cycle, the assessment of the Bulls finances was potentially flawed and one of the potential SL clubs is a new company. So the 2011 criteria and assessments may not be applicable. If this is so then a different approach is needed and creating it may take several weeks.

I agree with you that this considerable inconvenience and the need to try and create a new assessment system at short notice is primarily the fault of the old Bulls management. Most unfortunate.

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Quote: Adeybull "And I DID try to warn it that it was likely to get a good 'Varking (which I was looking forward to)...you all saw that I DID try? Hardly our fault if it would not listen?'"


i am sure you do look forward to a good varking Anabull. Do your sources tell you that OK Bulls got all their paperwork etc to the RFL by Sept 4th or did it take a tad longer? icon_biggrin.gif

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