so basically we have covered all of our bases because if he gets banned then you are proven correct. If he doesnt get banned then its biased.

Alternatively, in the real world if he doesnt get banned its because he has done nothing wrong a la Hoffman on Wheeler.

I think the best evidence would be a video replay that shows whether he goes high or not.

Whether the RFL does or doesn't award a ban proves nothing, and it's been like this for a very long time.

you will find that the video will be reviewed by the RFL. Your opinion of it matters not one bit which is exactly why they wont take the effort to appease every fan and show it. I made a quick note of the incident at the time and there was nothing in it at all.

I wish all threads got finished off with such overwhelming evidence.

You lot still harping on about the match. Seams your first try was off a 7th tackle. So I don't hear much about how that from you lot. Nope it's all the ref in favour of Saints, how Saints got a penalty, which was correct but still shouldn't have been given because bradford should have won.

Basically we was robbed. 2 tries chalked off, Bradford gifted their first try with an extra tackle.


It's all a conspiracy to keep the dullards in the top 8.

Jeez, you missing Keiron these days, huh?

I suppose that would be the reduction factor that has led to two Saints players being banned already this season: Scott Moore for doing something unknown to Kevin Sinfield (appeal unsuccessful) and Josh Perry for a one on one fight with a Crusaders player (appeal unsuccessful).

Obviously, one rule for Saints, another for everyone else!

Loving Jon Wilkin this season. Aside from the fact that he's bloody gorgeous looking and sexy as hell, he is having an absolute stormer for us and I wouldn't change anything in his game at all. He smacked straight into the Bradford player because he was committed to the ball. The guy was a maniac over the weekend. 40 tackles on Friday in the Exiles game and our best player by a country mile for the 73 minutes he put in on Sunday. Bloody legend.

boy are you going to look a tad silly when he is found not guilty of anything.

May I be the first to say 'whoosh'?

Knock yourself out

Nope, the game's ten times better without that thug around. Thanks for reminding everyone of the prime example of the "Saints reduction factor". Punch a man in the face and fracture his eye socket? Yeah, let's let him off.



See above and remember your salary cap breaches... And how you got away with them. Paranoid? Nah, just a realist.

I dont think wilkin did anything wrong - did not look like he was intentionally aiming to hurt herbert and timing was fine wilkin had hit herbert pretty much as the ball hit his boot.

Remind us how the anti-Wigan RFL let Wigan off will you.

I seem to remember Wigan avoiding relegation by breaching salary cap rules....... But you will already know this as your a Realist!