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VP is 13 metres too short. The minimum pitch requirement is 88 metres length plus 6 metres each in-goal. Plus 3 metres between in goal and barriers. That equates to a total pitch length of 116m. VP is 103m. I suppose we could have a back-office conversation with the RFL to ask if they'd authorise our permanent home being significantly undersized, and we'd then know if was even an option.

The gap to the barriers is a safeguarding issue which I wouldn't really want to tinker with. When we play at footy grounds you see our lads hurtling into places they should never be near. That can't be right.

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I don’t know if anybody heard it but Hirst was on podcast and says best case scenario council acquire it failing that if they are told they can change things bulls will buy it

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Quote: Pumpetypump "VP is 13 metres too short. The minimum pitch requirement is 88 metres length plus 6 metres each in-goal. Plus 3 metres between in goal and barriers. That equates to a total pitch length of 116m. VP is 103m. I suppose we could have a back-office conversation with the RFL to ask if they'd authorise our permanent home being significantly undersized, and we'd then know if was even an option.

The gap to the barriers is a safeguarding issue which I wouldn't really want to tinker with. When we play at footy grounds you see our lads hurtling into places they should never be near. That can't be right.'"


Has it shrunk since we played there in 2001 and 2002? I didn't see any problems back then?

Quote: Pumpetypump "I don’t know if anybody heard it but Hirst was on podcast and says best case scenario council acquire it failing that if they are told they can change things bulls will buy it'"


Not heard a podcast, do you have a link pls? How would the Bulls afford the leasehold? Did Hirst think that possible? Intrigued by that possibility.

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Quote: Bullseye "Has it shrunk since we played there in 2001 and 2002? I didn't see any problems back then?

Not heard a podcast, do you have a link pls? How would the Bulls afford the leasehold? Did Hirst think that possible? Intrigued by that possibility.'"

It was Hirst that said it
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2YmTXE ... XIfOjJP1vA
Quote: Bullseye "Has it shrunk since we played there in 2001 and 2002? I didn't see any problems back then?

Not heard a podcast, do you have a link pls? How would the Bulls afford the leasehold? Did Hirst think that possible? Intrigued by that possibility.'"

It was Hirst that said it
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2YmTXE ... XIfOjJP1vA


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Quote: Bullseye "Has it shrunk since we played there in 2001 and 2002? I didn't see any problems back then?.'"


I thought we were only given dispensation to play there as it was a temporary thing? I'm sure I can remember players hitting the hoardings.

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See Mick Gledhills latest update? RFL asking for best written bids, by no later than Wednesday 31st January 2024. As it is hoped a sale will take place in February.
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Yeah, I read it as the RFL saying

'oh cr4p, please someone buy it cos it's going to cost us a ton of money in IMG world and no-one's shown any interest at all! No honestly, it's getting a bit worrying, come quick! We'll sell it in Feb, honest we will...you'll miss out, you will....you will. You'll be sorry!!'

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Quote: Scarey71 "Yeah, I read it as the RFL saying

'oh cr4p, please someone buy it cos it's going to cost us a ton of money in IMG world and no-one's shown any interest at all! No honestly, it's getting a bit worrying, come quick! We'll sell it in Feb, honest we will...you'll miss out, you will....you will. You'll be sorry!!''"
I'm glad its crippling the RFL. I f they have had said to Robin Hood in 2010 get lost about the secret loan none of this mess the last 13 years wouldn't have happened. Club would have gone belly up in 2010 but would have still held the lease
and been more attractive to buyers.

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Quote: redeverready "I'm glad its crippling the RFL. I f they have had said to Robin Hood in 2010 get lost about the secret loan none of this mess the last 13 years wouldn't have happened. Club would have gone belly up in 2010 but would have still held the lease
and been more attractive to buyers.'"


Absolutely spot on, though we must never lose sight of the fact we're the RFL's pets...

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Quote: redeverready "I'm glad its crippling the RFL. I f they have had said to Robin Hood in 2010 get lost about the secret loan none of this mess the last 13 years wouldn't have happened. Club would have gone belly up in 2010 but would have still held the lease
and been more attractive to buyers.'"


100%. Would love to know what the RFL were thinking at the time. Surely the potential return of Caisley wasn't putting the wind up them that much??

Anyway. Will be interesting to see if anyone puts a bid in.

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Quote: Bullseye "100%. Would love to know what the RFL were thinking at the time. Surely the potential return of Caisley wasn't putting the wind up them that much??

Anyway. Will be interesting to see if anyone puts a bid in.'"


I’ve said this before. The rfl were doing 1 of two things. They were either in complete panic mode to try and get some sort of asset to set against the stupid unsecured loan that they’d given us, totally focussed on the short term and trying to spin the damage onto the Bulls in the eyes of the RL fan base to save their own skins.
Or it was all a careful Machiavellian plan to step by step strip a member club of its stadium so that they could bring together the holy grail (for the rfl) - A national rugby league stadium that they controlled, central, with Red hall being moved there, along with the heritage museum, all on one site. For internationals, cup semifinals and a few plums thrown for the tenant club…
Derailed by a combination of austerity, financial crash and resistance from the fans.

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Quote: Highlander "I’ve said this before. The rfl were doing 1 of two things. They were either in complete panic mode to try and get some sort of asset to set against the stupid unsecured loan that they’d given us, totally focussed on the short term and trying to spin the damage onto the Bulls in the eyes of the RL fan base to save their own skins.
Or it was all a careful Machiavellian plan to step by step strip a member club of its stadium so that they could bring together the holy grail (for the rfl) - A national rugby league stadium that they controlled, central, with Red hall being moved there, along with the heritage museum, all on one site. For internationals, cup semifinals and a few plums thrown for the tenant club…
Derailed by a combination of austerity, financial crash and resistance from the fans.'"


That would be the one and only time that they've thought ahead then

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Judging by the latest council plans to cut spending across the board we can forget about them spending a brass farthing on RL or Odsal.

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Calderdale Council have mentioned disposal/sale of The Shay in recent meeting.
Might stop some of the sniping from Fax fans seen on social media.

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Quote: Ckt2487 "Calderdale Council have mentioned disposal/sale of The Shay in recent meeting.
Might stop some of the sniping from Fax fans seen on social media.'"


Most councils in this country are on the verge of bankrupcy.

It's now become a choice between which vital service they have to shelve to ensure which other vital service remains. Sports stadia are probably quite far down the list in comparison to things like child safeguarding etc.

The RFL aren't going to palm this drain on resources off that easily. The only option is private investment and I doubt you'll see many people queuing up for that. Plus any self respecting business person will leave it until they can use people's desparation or foreclosure as leverage to get costs down.

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