do you find people don't understand you when you sit down? if so it's probably something to do with the fact the you are talking out of you're ar$e.

People offer other assets. Experience and leadership are big reasons, I can gurantee you Fitzgibbon and O'Meley have brought players on and will leave a positive impact on the English game. Can you name me an avaliable prop who has played in 4 grand finals? Or a prop who had played over 200 games including 27 rep games? Or a loose forward who has played over 300 games including 35 rep games?

ATEOTD we'll see to me plenty of English players would offer just as much as this guy who no one has even heard of.

I can name lots of British forwards that have bigger impact than Sam Moa and I am pretty sure you could aswell, but I CBA right now.
And now you're trying to tell us that there's no British forward that can provide the same impact as Sam Moa.

Can you give me the names? The fact England have drafted in Big Maurie from Saints and Willie Manu from us show how much explosive impact English forwards can give.

Like who?

Who is available and willing to come to Bradford.

And if you haven't heard of him, you can't have seen him play so how do you even know what he offers?

What about Lauaki????? Does he come under the same category?

Precisely.

My question was purely to see how much bias he showed. If bias wasn't shown, I'll continue to discuss it.

Since it's clear that his argument doesn't count against Hull players in the same mould, I'm going to ignore him and treat him as a troll.

Kiwi blood back at Odsal , i hope he turns out to be another Hape/Withers type signing.

absolutely correct as platt will be going to salford as part of deal that brings ratchford to bulls.

agree with all that, however I'd be prepared to sacrifice platt to get someone like ratchford on board. stefan has played a lot of and hasnt really featured in halves this year, so salford would be getting a player playing same position who could also cover fullback. We'd get a young half who we could bring on for a year or 2 alongside southernwood, both getting benefit of orfords experience, and then have a halves partnership which could last for quite a few years.

I don't think Ratchford has played once in the centres this year for Salford. He played there a couple of years ago, but when he does play now, it's in the halves. He's just had an unlucky year with injuries, hence his lack of game time.

He'll definately be signing for us then!

could have sworn they were using him in this year. dont really pay much attention to salfords games though. just remember him looking impressive in halves back end of last year once it was clear myler was going to wire and was being left out of team.

Like most on here I don't know a great deal about Ah Van but I trust the club and Mick Potter have done some research into him. For now I am just pleased to see us bolstering the backline with some new faces.

Welcome to the Bulls Patrick Ah Van! I hope he has an easier 'nickname' to shout from the terraces though!! I am now interested to see if he'll be our only recruit from overseas.

We can just call him Paddy!