I doubt very much that Wakey and a few others will be spending £1.8m on the gates they get. We can "officially" spend £1m. They underspend by a few 100k and we do some imaginative accounting with partners working in the shop and a few supermarket openings and we may be able to spend a few 100k over. We are not too far apart then and it might just come down to coaching quality and injuries. I do believe the bottom SL clubs could be vulnerable to Championship clubs that are playing well.

I like that idea

Micheal Carter has said Wakefield can run on the full salary cap with gates of 6,300. It remains to be seen whether it can be achieved without cheap season tickets, but they aren't a million miles away from it.

How much funding will SL clubs be receiving next year? I thought they were getting £1.8m each, but perhaps not if wakey need those crowd figures in order to spend the full cap.

Against Leeds they were a long way from that.What was it against Widnes recent 4 something,think they could be in danger of losing 12 points next season but still been ok

No Super League side will be going into admin next season. Michael Carter is an accountant, he won't be spending money on players they can't budget for.



It's what astute businessmen and competent chairmen are supposed to do. Just because we've been run by a series of morons up until recently, it doesn't mean everyone else is unable to live within their means.

I don't think Wakey will go under with MC in charge. As Northus says, he is an astute businessman. However they do need to increase their attendances (MC has said this himself in numerous interviews) otherwise they won't be able to pay to the cap.

a solicitor and senior partner in a firm of lawyer specialising in business and company law, which I'd assume includes contracts and the like, but we still managed to get into an awful mess over Iestyn Harris' contract. I think the old adage, about commonsense flying out of the window when professionals become involved with sports clubs, became a cliché because it's probably true.

There is no degree,qualification,experience that can fully prepare anybody for trying to run a pro sports club, especially one like RL

That's very true. Trouble really comes when not only their business experience falls to the wayside but their commonsense along with it. Equally troubling is the fact it happens only too often.

i think teams like wakey ,HKR possibly salford possibly widnes possibly hull ,will be looking over there shoulders at religation next season ,i dont think the redused money for london and especally the bulls will be a big factor the bulls have been playing on half super leage money for the past 2 seasons and still turning so called better teams over abet not often ,would anybody back against a bulls team that had been winning more than they have been losing against any of the teams above that had a poor season ,money does not garentee you success ,team spirt , winning mental attitude and confidance. i believe does

Hull & Salford should be nowhere near relegation.

If everything which [ishould[/i or [ishouldn't[/i happen actually [idid[/i or [ididn't[/i the bookies would be bankrupt.

Based on what? Money spent? Quality of players/



Bulls should be nowhere near relegation surely either? But if you don't win any games...

May seem odd but salford have been lucky that bradford have been total crap this year, otherwise we may have taken the 4 pts from them instead of the other way around, however next year i can only see them getting better aslong as they dont sign players for the sake of it, and strengthen where they need to.

For Salford, it all comes down to accounting & juggling the cap to make sure everyone fits in. As a team, they have, like most teams in the top8, a good spine of international players. But Salford also have a couple of genuine world class players now as well, which should make the difference in close games once everyone is used to playing with each other.



As a short term option, it will work well, longer term, they need to get the academy up & running, which the good Dr is working towards.

Well, bearing in mind there are only 12 teams in SL from next season and 4 will drop into the 'middle 8', then there are going to be most likely 5-6 or maybe even more teams that are [isomewhere[/i near relegation.



Unless one or more teams do a Bulls-like implosion, then its going to be 'squeaky bum' time for at least half of SL this time next year...

That is the illusion the RFL is trying to create, though it's mostly smoke and mirrors.



A team on built for £1m V another built for around double that figure has a very distinct disadvantage, even before you factor in that the SL side have also been honed by playing at a higher level, against better quality opponents.



Truth is, there would have been more P&R under licensing than under the new scheme. That said, for an ex-SL team, the best time to take advantage is next season whilst the iron is still warm...ish.

If you were that confident, you would have said they won't be near relegation

Not sure it is much of an illusion though. Yes there is the money difference in terms of a squad, but the actual 17 that make it onto the pitch is probably going to be of similar ability and cost (Championship teams should if built right be able to field a SL quality starting line up with lower quality backs ups).



There is also the confidence factor. I'd suggest that a marginally lower cost team with bags of confidence from a successful first half of the season could be competitive with a higher costing team low on confidence after a poor first half of season.



Prior to Jimmy taking over, I'd have probably said a Bulls vs Leigh game would be very competitive as would London vs Fev.



One thing is that its sure going to be interesting!!!

Even if you beat one of the 4 SL sides in the "super8 league", likelihood is you will get 4th and they will get 5th. So still another one-off SL game to go. Though you would get home advantage.

Salford, I would say will be nowhere near. Hull shouldn't be, but if they continue with an ape as coach they might.

I think thats the idea

So what P & R have we seen under licensing?

He said there would have. The odd young buck would have got in every three years. Say wakey makes way for leigh courtesy of better franchise plan. Under this purely cosmetic promotion system no one comes up. I understand that Bulls fans simply must not believe that to be true but I really think it is.