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What about this for a theory..................he signed for Macbanana, always wanted to play for him and now he's gone his (Orful's) situation becomes untenable ?? Or he has always had a poor relationship with Potter ???

I am purely speculating, but then again, so is everyone else. As has been said, we'll never know............

PS: Surely publishing an autobiography goes against the confidentiallity agreement, otherwise Bulls could publisha small book (flier to all season tkt holders) explaining the stuation.

Whatever, I think its been badly reported in the press and does look like we have been trodden over by that scumbag !!!

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Quote: staffbull1973 "What about this for a theory..................he signed for Macbanana, always wanted to play for him and now he's gone his (Orful's) situation becomes untenable ?? Or he has always had a poor relationship with Potter ???

I am purely speculating, but then again, so is everyone else. As has been said, we'll never know............

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If Toerag has asked for it to be kept confidential, then decides to publish it in his own autobiography, that would be his perogative, wouldn't it? After all, who would he sue? Himself?

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Quote: AJW "If Toerag has asked for it to be kept confidential, then decides to publish it in his own autobiography, that would be his perogative, wouldn't it? After all, who would he sue? Himself?'"
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Good point, well made :-0

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I would certainly buy a book released by the bulls on the goings on of players leaving and other big stories over the past few years. I couldn't see it happening though, unfortunately.

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Quote: phillgee "I would certainly buy a book released by the bulls on the goings on of players leaving and other big stories over the past few years. I couldn't see it happening though, unfortunately.'"


Not least because it would make "War and Peace" look like a short story!

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Quote: AJW "If Toerag has asked for it to be kept confidential, then decides to publish it in his own autobiography, that would be his perogative, wouldn't it? After all, who would he sue? Himself?'"


Not if he had signed a confidentiality agreement. Then he would be open to being sued by the club. Although with what chance of material success...well I suspect we can all guess the answer?

I think what people are meaning is that, in a few years when all the fuss has dies down. Usually the books come out a bit down the track. If Toerag was to blab something fairly soon, then I'm sure the club WOULD take action. Especially if the agreement says, inter alia, that they will pay him £x only provided the terms remain confidential.

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Quote: staffbull1973 "What about this for a theory..................he signed for Macbanana, always wanted to play for him and now he's gone his (Orful's) situation becomes untenable ?? Or he has always had a poor relationship with Potter ??? '"


Its as believable - or preposterous - as any other!!! icon_lol.gif

Although the first point would probably make you wonder at his state of mind...?

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Yeah, but its amazing what you can think up when there is a great big pot of cash at risk.............even with the risk of losing face about wanting to play for Macbanana, it'd be worth the financial reward !!!

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The curious thing about Hood's statement is that what it says, if you break it down into chunks, iscannot return to the UK
2. These reasons already existed before Awford left the UK to recuperate in Aus
3. These reasons were unknown to the club

I am therefore entitled to presume that these reasons WERE known to Awford before he departed.

So, there was already a reason, before he left, why he would not be able to return to the UK; and it is confidential.

I am not going to speculate on what sort of reasons could possibly fit that bill, firstly because it is fruitless, also because a fair few of the sort of scenarios which could be made to fit would involve something dodgy, but mainly because I don't buy it.

Not least because our CE Ryan Duckett was quoted a few weeks back as saying"When Matt went back home to have the operation he told us he was fully committed to the club," Duckett said.'"

It is hard to imagine what outside thing was already in existence that neither we nor Awford knew about, barring serious illness of a close relative or some such, but even in such a scenario why would there be a need to keep the financials hush hush?

I also hate the fact that the supporters, who pay the money, are again being left totally in the dark as to how the money is being spent. And I understand confidentiality clauses, but given that this wasn't like a two-sided dispute - all the right and all the contractual terms were 100% on our side - I can't see what pressure there can have been on us to agree to stringent confidentialty terms on the finances side of things. What cards did Awford have, to play?

I too am glad that the whole sorry saga is at last over, but it leaves a very bitter taste.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The curious thing about Hood's statement is that what it says, if you break it down into chunks, iscannot return to the UK
2. These reasons already existed before Awford left the UK to recuperate in Aus
3. These reasons were unknown to the club

I am therefore entitled to presume that these reasons WERE known to Awford before he departed.

So, there was already a reason, before he left, why he would not be able to return to the UK; and it is confidential.

I am not going to speculate on what sort of reasons could possibly fit that bill, firstly because it is fruitless, also because a fair few of the sort of scenarios which could be made to fit would involve something dodgy, but mainly because I don't buy it.

Not least because our CE Ryan Duckett was quoted a few weeks back as saying


Summed up perfectly. What we've been told simply doesn't make sense.

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It should be remembered that not only supporters have been sacrificed over this fiasco. Who is to say that Mr Menzies and Mr Morrison would have had to leave had we not been desperate for a quota spot.

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Quote: rugbyreddog "It should be remembered that not only supporters have been sacrificed over this fiasco. Who is to say that Mr Menzies and Mr Morrison would have had to leave had we not been desperate for a quota spot.'"


menzies is fair enough, but morrison was released long before we even knew orford was available and mainly due to his recurring injury problems rather than a desperate need for his quota spot iirc.

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I think a name change for this forum is in order red amber and mushrooms fits more perfectly now.

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Quote: mat "menzies is fair enough, but morrison was released long before we even knew orford was available and mainly due to his recurring injury problems rather than a desperate need for his quota spot iirc.'"


Agree Mat. As much as I like Menzies I would rather have a young aggresive forward like Elima any day of the week.

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Quote: redeverready "I think a name change for this forum is in order red amber and mushrooms fits more perfectly now.'"



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