Who mentioned the current mayor? The prevoius Mayor was an Independant.
In any case which ever one you are referring to they both won an election.

Another one to Bradford. Given the population, we probably have more loony tunes than you, but we don't vote them in as mayor......

Bradford Council always covers itself in......glory?

As i said i am not concerned with what does or does not happen in Bradford or a point scoring exercise of my town is better than yours etc, my concern is for the long term future of the Bulls in regaining a position at the top end of Rugby League which in my opinion would be easier to sell to sponsors etc without the 'Bradford' tag. I am not trying to wind anyone up with this, i am just looking at this from the point of view of potential outside businesses looking in.

Which is a fair point to make. My opinion is that all that matters in that regard is success and profile. Changing the name would have little positive impact on that and would, I think, be outweighed by losing local identity with Bradford.

Yes, there are many fans from outside Bradford but the core are the locals. I would have thought peoples response to your suggestion would have demonstrated that people are attached to the town and having its name associated with the team.

Keeping the pledge numbers high and a return of form will bring sponsors in regardless of the name. Anyway Bradford Bulls already has brand recognition that you would be sacrificing by changing the name. When people ask me who I support, generally they know who we are and how successful we've been.

As I said at the start, the stories you were concerned about aren't visible outside Bradford and everywhere has the same problems. And anyway do you think calling ourselves Northern anything would help with UK wide sponsors? "Northern" hardly has any better connotations for most.

I only selected 'Northern' as an example, but in respect to the history of the 'club' rather than its location.
I always purchase a season ticket even if i can not get to games due to work etc to do my bit even before we had the pledge.

Just to lighten this up a bit, but on a related subject of perceptions of hometowns, an amusing (well to me, anyway...) little anecdote from when I was on holiday at a decent hotel in Cyprus a couple of years ago.

At the weekly manager's cocktail reception for all the guests, we get talking to a woman who seemed fairly full of herself. Talking posh and acting frightfully upper-middle class and all that. When asked where she hailed from, she replied "just outside Harrogate". True to type, we thought. She was a little taken aback though when we said we lived not that far away, northwest of Bradford. After some more discussion, when it became increasingly clear she was not keen on saying precisely where it was she came from, she finally had to say.

Cleckheaton.



It was amusing that she did not feel even Leeds carried the kudos she was looking for! Hope for us yet.

Got (Bradford Interchange not so new, but there's not many better ones....)
Got (Not as good as Donny, but that's geography innit)
Got and a uni as well
Got one already
Got a bigger stadium, albeit not a new flatpack one though.

Yes, but apart from that & better range of curry houses, better range of ales, the National Film Museum, Alhambra, St Georges hall, Saltaire, what has it got that Donny hasn't?

No, mate Bfd Council doesn't cover itself in glory - far from it, it's as bad as any other to be honest, and on the 'hole in the ground', for not putting proper penalty clauses in the contract with Waste of a Field it was criminally negligent, imo. That was the 'old' lot of course, though the 'new' lot haven't proved much different, as yet.
If you're not concerned with "points scoring" why did you start it?

It depends what side of the estate you're from. I used to live "off Cooper Lane".

That confusion comes from the fact that the council estate "Buttershaw" is actually in Wibsey! Woodside estate is in Buttershaw! (if you look up old maps and boring stuff like that). The area that is borderd by Buttershaw lane, and the bottom 3rd of cooper lane at either side, and Wibsey park ave and Abscott lane is roughly what was historically termed BUttershaw. the area Wibsey, basically covered what is now Wibsey Village, and anything between reevy road and beacon road upto cooper lane!

Doncaster has the racecourse. that is all that could be termed as better than Bradford. Even Jeremy Clarkson is ashamed of being from there!!! and he has no shame!

Doncaster has the racecourse. that is all that could be termed as better than Bradford.

If you like, other than the fact that on a Saturday morning i can go and walk around a nice new, shiney , clean shopping centre.
Also i can not see how you can say that Bradford has a better stadium.
But as i said i'm not interested in points scoring, i live where i live and i am happy, you live where you live and you are happy. It was not me who turned this into a Doncaster v Bradford slanging match, i never mentioned Doncaster, i mentioned the name of the Bulls and what would appear from outside looking in to be a better name (in my opinion).

I am certainly not ashamed of being from Donny, quite proud for reasons I find hard to fathom. I still love the place but think it does no-one much good spending their life in the same place. As for Clarkson, but for a couple of miles we would have been at the same school, in the same year. I deeply regret that as I could have kicked the sh[ii[/it out of him on a daily basis.